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Privacy Search Engines

nof4n ( nof4n@lemmy.ml )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml ·
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  • DuckDuckGo
  • Mojeek
  • SearXNG
  • Startpage (blocks TOR)
  • Swisscows (blocks TOR)
  • MetaGer
  • Brave

P2P:

  • YaCy
  • SightNet (is under development)
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  • auth ( authed@lemmy.ml ) 
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    How can a privacy-focused search engine block Tor? You probably should remove those.

    • nof4n ( nof4n@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      I should have specify, that they don’t block only tor. They block malicious traffic.

      • auth ( authed@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Tor traffic is not necessarily vicious traffic…

        • nof4n ( nof4n@lemmy.ml ) OP
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          CloudFlare: 94 Percent of Tor Traffic Is Malicious

        • beefcat ( beefcat@kbin.social ) 
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          If 94% of traffic from a given source is malicious, and I don’t have a good way of differentiating the 6% that is good, I might just end up blocking 100% to keep my site stable.

          Just another example of bad actors making it so we can’t have nice things.

  • hiyaaaaa23 ( hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social ) 
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    Didn’t brave have some scandals. Idk that’s when I stopped using it

    • beefcat ( beefcat@kbin.social ) 
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      Their CEO donates money to anti-LGBT causes.

      • Binzy_Boi ( Binzy_Boi@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Source? I know some peeps who use brave who would like to know this.

        • The Doctor ( drwho@beehaw.org ) 
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          Eich has a history of acting like a jagoff…

          https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html

          https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology

          https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26868536

          https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/5579516/outfoxed-how-protests-forced-mozillas-ceo-to-resign-in-11-days

          https://cryptonews.com/news/brave-browser-courts-social-media-rage-with-covid-19-comment-8706.htm

          https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26868536

      • nevernevermore ( nevernevermore@kbin.social ) 
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        I didn’t even realise brave was a search engine as well as browser. Anyways after i found out he was a prick i stopped using the brave browser and switched to mullvad’s

  • citytree ( citytree@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Why is Ecosia on the list?

    Quoting from tosdr.org:

    • This service can view your browser history
    • This service may collect, use, and share location data
    • This service allows tracking via third-party cookies for purposes including targeted advertising
    • This service tracks which web page referred you to it
    • Your personal data is given to third parties

    Doesn’t look privacy-respecting.

  • kixik ( kixik@lemmy.ml ) 
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    searx and searxng are not search engines, and searx is more private (searxng collects info from users, which searx never wanted to). AFAIK duckduckgo is neither a search engine on its own, it uses blink…

    • nof4n ( nof4n@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      To tell the truth, only yacy and sightnet have own index(database). Others are meta-search engines. They work like proxy. It’s called meta search. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasearch_engine)

      • 0xCAFe ( 0xCAFE@feddit.de ) 
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        Mojeek has it’s own index. DuckDuckGo, Qwant and Brave have a partial index mixed with meta search results.

      • magmaus3 ( magmaus3@szmer.info ) 
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        iirc Mojeek also has it’s own database

  • §ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ ( shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Maybe add ecosia.org to the list, definitely a privacy focused search engine.

    • nof4n ( nof4n@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      Ok, i’ll add it. Thanks.

  • TheElectroness ( TheElectroness@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I wish more of them would support duckduckgo’s bang system, brave seems to, but that’s about it. Idealogically I find the idea of using brave troublesome because of a) Eich’s transphobia, and b) the cryptobro factor (although I don’t think the search page has an embedded miner, at least not from the cursory glance I took

    • janAkali ( janAkali@lemmy.one ) 
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      Firefox supports bangs natively, you can also change or add your own shortcuts.

  • Bernard Marx ( bernard@lemmy.peoplever.se ) 
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    As others have stated, you are mixing search engines with metasearch engines here. If you employ browser isolation and obscure your IP address, you can be anonymous with any engine.

    Yacy has potential, and I run an instance. It relies on us operators to index sites. You will find results to be incomplete in many areas, but it can be great for researching controversial topics. When I want uncensored and not manipulated results, I also use Yandex.com and Brave.

  • Mikelius ( Mikelius@beehaw.org ) 
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    Man I loved duckduckgo until they stopped working with DarkReader about a month ago. So now every time I do a search, I’m blinded by a large white screen lol. Even setting their dark theme option doesn’t persist between sessions (for me) so I had to move on… Brave was what I went to but I’m not enjoying it too much. Thanks for this list, it gives me some other options to look into if I end up not liking Leta 👀

  • Gargari ( Gargari@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Brave seems to work for me

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    I would remove Qwant from this list, because they share your data with Bing, their privacy policy have contradicting statements and include:

    Qwant may transfer to this partner the following pseudonymous data related to your query:
    – The keywords of the search;
    – Information about the browser you are using (the User Agent);
    – The first three bytes of your IP address;
    – The approximate geographical area from which the search originated, at the level of a region or city;
    – The salt hash generated from your IP address, your User Agent and a salt that changes at the latest every 3 months;
    – A random token generated by Qwant.

    …Qwant may also collect and transfer to this partner your full IP address.
    This processing is in the legitimate interest of Microsoft Ireland Operations Limited (article 6.1.f) to secure and make its services more reliable.

    This data is transferred to this partner within the European Union, and may be retained in accordance with Bing’s Privacy Policy for a maximum period of 18 months.

    Please, also review this if you plan to use qwant:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant#Controversies

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