I see i can find a foss version on f-droid, and that’s something not a lot of social networks can have, i don’t really like all the crypto bullshit and ads testing they’ve been up to lately, but still looks better to me compared to what Reddit have done lately or what other platforms have done in these years…
I don’t know about their privacy feature, but i wouldn’t trust their chat as for as far as i knew they were not end to end encrypted some time ago (except for secret chats).
Anyway it still looks like one of the at least still decent platforms out there, or am i wrong?
- Platform27 ( @Platform27@lemmy.ml ) 28•1 year ago
I put it in the same boat as WhatsApp. Better than SMS, but I’ll be sticking to Signal.
- TwilightKiddy ( @TwilightKiddy@programming.dev ) 20•1 year ago
The company’s CEO is Pavel Durov, the very clown who built russian alternative to Facebook, VKontakte, and then practically sold it to russian government with all it’s users. And russian government, being itself, repressed anyone who liked “wrong” stuff there. So, Durov being no stranger to selling things to governments, in my opinion, deserves zero trust.
- Hexadecimalkink ( @Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml ) 11•1 year ago
He didn’t voluntarily sell it to the Russian government.
- Bri Guy ( @brihuang95@sopuli.xyz ) 12•1 year ago
Didn’t he basically get ousted and kicked out of Russia since he didn’t wanna sell VK?
- copylefty ( @copylefty@lemmy.fosshost.com ) 3•1 year ago
Yes
- Llewellyn ( @Llewellyn@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
You don’t know, what are you talking about.
https://lemmy.world/comment/1556530- TwilightKiddy ( @TwilightKiddy@programming.dev ) 2•1 year ago
I’m perfectly aware of what I’m talking about. He lost control of company’s shares to government-affilated people and they fired him. What an unpredictable turn of events. I don’t really care if it happend due to stupidity or malice, considering the amount of public stunts he pulled off at the time, I doubt you can call his course of action straightforward.
Even when he was fired, they did it with his own resignment notice he submitted as April Fool’s joke. The guy is a literal clown, I have no idea why you’d entrust him with your data.
Just use Signal or Matrix.
- §ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ ( @shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml ) 9•1 year ago
Being encryption needs to be enabled highlights how Telegram is trying to increase users who want privacy & security but don’t exactly know how to go about it. Granted, the option makes it a step up above sms, but that’s not saying a lot…
- vis4valentine ( @vis4valentine@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 year ago
I like telegram but russians.
Still better than using WhatsApp.
- calm.like.a.bomb ( @_calm_bomb_@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year ago
I like telegram but russians.
You know, I have friends that say this, but at the same time they’re stuck to tiktok like crazy…
- chayleaf ( @chayleaf@lemmy.ml ) 5•1 year ago
It’s better than Whatsapp & Co since it’s FOSS. It’s worse than Matrix and XMPP since those are federated (and Matrix has e2ee). It’s about tied with Signal, Signal is FOSS but hostile to third-party clients, in exchange it has encryption on by default.
Telegram is known to occasionally hand out users’ data in extraordinary circumstances, but that’s pretty rare overall. It’s not the choice for super sensitive communications, but it’s decent as a better alternative for SNS. It’s very popular in Russia because it has public one-to-many channels and unlike VK and etc it mostly doesn’t censor stuff. I’ll never use Whatsapp, I have no reason to use Signal because nobody I know uses it and Matrix is better, Telegram is alright in my book.
Also it’s possible to buy anonymous telegram accounts, not sure that’s possible for Signal.
- disrooter ( @disrooter@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
Telegram is known to occasionally hand out users’ data in extraordinary circumstances
Source? And what circumstances? AFAIK it never happened.
- disrooter ( @disrooter@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
Thanks, though the article also says that Telegram states they didn’t share any data because they have never stored it (like IP).
- Hexadecimalkink ( @Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml ) 5•1 year ago
Telegram is more popular than WhatsApp in several global south countries. I use it with friends around the world, it has better functionality than WhatsApp. I’m not a fan of Meta so as far as “it just works” messaging apps go, Telegram is probably the best alternative to WhatsApp.
- cmeerw ( @cmeerw@programming.dev ) 3•1 year ago
They are seriously suffering from NIH (not invented here) syndrome. So, you can theoretically build your own Telegram client, but you can’t re-use any standard components to do so. WhatsApp on the other hand doesn’t open their clients, but under the hood they are just using mostly standard components (Noise protocol, modified XMPP protocol, Signal protocol), so it’s not actually that difficult to build your own WhatsApp client by just piecing together these components.
- nyakojiru ( @nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 3•1 year ago
FluffyChat (Matrix) . No phone linking . Encryption . Period . The only backdraft is others users needs to register in matrix and when I tell other to do so they ask me if I’m talking about the movies
- SSUPII ( @SSUPII@sopuli.xyz ) 3•1 year ago
I posted the following review on Play Store about FlullyChat (22 March 2022).
I am trying, I really am, to sign up to matrix but no matter all the captchas, the verification emails and agreeing to the terms my account doesn’t exist and requires me unspecified “additional verification”. Even on a different homeserver, using SAML, I with an account actually ready and connected in my browser the app just won’t log in. I got frustrated and left the app.
I actually got extremely mad that day, as it was an already painful day. Can you tell me if Matrix or FluffyChat have become easier to access from the outside?
- nyakojiru ( @nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 5•1 year ago
Not sure from fluffychat how is the registration process. I originally registered from Element app, which is also good. And in that time it was pretty easy, it made me to register on matrix.org . And I used my same account very smoothly in Fluffychat
- MentalEdge ( @MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ) 3•1 year ago
Private home server. Bridges.
Show them they can have all their chats in one app.
They will beg you for an account.
Then you can talk to that person only within matrix. Rinse, repeat. They begin to move over one by one.
- Version ( @Version@feddit.de ) 3•1 year ago
I wouldn‘t use it for messaging, but as a social media platform it seems to be working pretty well.
- zemon ( @zemon@lemmy.ml ) 2•1 year ago
It’s one step better than whatsapp, fb messenger and viber. I use Signal with my family and friends, it’s a middle ground between the big ones and XMPP.
- !ozoned@lemmy.world ( @ozoned@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
My opion is I won’t go near it. Matrix via Elementor it’s many other clients is for me and my family.
- pinkolik ( @pinkolik@random-hero.com ) 1•1 year ago
Any platform that requires your phone number to sign up can’t be considered private de-facto
- miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 5•1 year ago
That’s more about anonymity than privacy though. Take Signal for example. Yes, the phone number makes me identifiable, but what I chat about is very much private.
- GadgeteerZA ( @GadgeteerZA@beehaw.org ) English1•1 year ago
I use Telegram the most, as I have most of my contacts on it. Secret chat is there for those that I want to be sure to be private. I have no issues with them as they have proven not to be sharing their data, or selling it (through the absence of that ever coming to light - unlike WhatsApp metadata passed up to Facebook). They are streets ahead on features, and their broadcast channels are really useful. I also push my blog posts to a channel that I have on Telegram. But like others have said, I also have Signal, Matrix, XMPP, etc as I have different friends on different networks. The only messengers I don’t have are Meta owned ones, as we have clearly seen what happens to our metadata there in repeated occasions.