• NutWrench ( NutWrench@lemmy.ml ) 
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    If God suddenly appeared and said, “I have returned and I am very displeased!” and then he made all the televangelists and MAGAs burst into flames, I would say, “huh. I guess I was wrong.”

    I don’t need much convincing.

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      And then you would tell your son, who would tell their son and after around five generations or so God would have to appear and kill a bunch of people once again, because apperently your decendants don’t belive in him anymore. If I was a god that would start to annoy me pretty fast.

      • VoxAdActa ( VoxAdActa@beehaw.org ) 
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        after around five generations or so God would have to appear and kill a bunch of people once again, because apperently your decendants don’t belive in him anymore.

        Well, yeah. Dude vanishes for a thousand years, and I’m supposed to believe the stories of the people who did see his work (people who all died before my most distant tracable ancestor was even born) that were written down by obvious agenda-posters? Seriously?

        The quickest way to get more believers is just to show up and do a party trick every once in a while, but for some reason, God hasn’t done anything public and indisputable since cameras were invented. Weird for a guy who wants the whole world to worship him. All he’d have to do is just have a booming voice, audible everywhere on the planet, say “By the way, I’m God, I exist, and [insert holy book] is the correct one, so ya’ll better get on that.” Only the hardcore contrarians would still be non-believers.

    • kszeslaw ( kszeslaw@szmer.info ) 
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      Absolutely not, science has a long history of ignoring and laughing at many new theories. Many of them were later found out to be true, sure, but it’s not like religion doesn’t change, reinterpret itself etc. along with the changing times.

      All the while nowadays pendulum has swinged to the other side, and most of published papers are never peer-reviewed, as “science” working under a capitalist system must abide by its rules, and so quantity and shock value is more important than quality.

      So while in theory “being wrong” sounds like something that would be useful for science in practice, no, it always was about being (or at least seeming) right.

  • Th4tGuyII ( Th4tGuyII@kbin.social ) 
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    Ah, the good old, tried and tested burden of proof switcheroo.

    Unlike with religion, we could attempt to prove whether our flying friend is a liar or not… but they won’t like it.

    Load them on a plane, boot them from the sky - if they can’t infact fly, then they shall die.

    If only religion could be so easily tested as throwing someone out of a plane and watching if they splat or not.

  • Lorium_O ( Lorium_O@lemm.ee ) 
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    This is becoming another Reddit

    I browse through memes and all of a sudden I find another post that slanders religion.

    This meme does not talk about scripture nor does it mention the actual teachings of current mainstream faiths. It just likes to mock others and swerve them into hating their religion.

    The only requirement to actually start believing in religion is to accept that God CAN exist (agnosticism), the next step would just be to read through the right religious scriptures.

    This is a hot take, but I’m sure a meme slandering your precious homos and trans buddies that’s similar to this post would cause a huge ton of backlash. Just saying, this is pretty much just another degenerate subreddit now.

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        But you see he isn’t pissed at you attacking God, he is pissed at you attacking religious people, who didn’t do anything to you (don’t you dare generalize) and you are just being rude, and can’t let people enjoy their thing.

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            As I said don’t generalize. I, as a relegious person, who didn’t commit any of those terrible things, nor do I approve of them do feel targeted by this. I mean, this meme could be used as a great joke in a good context. I just think putting it on the internet without any of that is not a good thing, as it just seems like an unprovoked attack.

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                Right now I don’t see them doing “terrible things”. I do not approve of things like burning people in the middle ages and such. You could make an argument about, for example sexual minorities being oppressed by them, but right now even that is getting fixed.

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                  “my fellow nazi dont kill much people anymore so i guess its chill”

                  i get the comparison is extreme but most organised religions literally are against any lgbtq people existing and more. Based on nothing, made up stories and you are here with your functioning human logic telling me thats ok and i shouldnt even joke about it???