- catsup ( @catsup@lemmy.one ) 12•1 year ago
Outrageous. I would actually be protesting if this were to happen in my country, and you wouldn’t hear the end of it. Protect-the-children my ass, this is an attack on the freedom of the common folk. Criminals will continue to use encryption even if its against the law; they were already commiting crimes, so what’s one more in the list?
- ghost_laptop ( @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year ago
How is a country going to end encryption worldwide? The West okay, bu what jurisdiction do they have over me?
- happyhippo ( @happyhippo@feddit.it ) 6•1 year ago
That’s what I also fail to grasp.
If things get serious and for example the WhatsApp, Telegram and Signals of the world have to disable e2ee to keep operating in the UK, I guess they could just leave that market before compromising data privacy of their users worldwide.
I don’t see this “ending encryption worldwide” thingy happening, at all.
But they could dig themselves a deeper hole after Brexit, that’s definitely possible and wouldn’t surprise me a bit.
- ghost_laptop ( @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
Or ship specific versions of their software for the UK, as it is done with other software in other countries with restrictions.
- perezoso ( @perezoso@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
A lot of them have already said they’d withdraw (facetime, iMessage, signal, WhatsApp included).
Just make a list how many companies tech companies operate from west. All those companies have to follow the law of the homeland.
- ghost_laptop ( @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml ) 3•1 year ago
Sure, but most of those companies didn’t even care much about privacy any way. How would this affect Matrix for example?
- f314 ( @f314@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year ago
Apple have already said they will shut down iMessage support in the UK if the bill passes.
this cryptographer working thing which will affect quantum computing, blockchain and integration of data. I don’t know much about Matrix so I can’t comment on that.
- itchy_lizard ( @itchy_lizard@feddit.it ) 2•1 year ago
Not even the West. Just the UK.
- Shikadi ( @Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•1 year ago
Idk where you live, but much of the world already lacks privacy
- GunnarRunnar ( @GunnarRunnar@kbin.social ) 3•1 year ago
What you said means pretty much nothing if you don’t take the time to explain it.
- Shikadi ( @Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•1 year ago
What I meant is, I literally don’t know where you live, so I don’t know why it doesn’t impact you “outside the west”
- Shjosan ( @Shjosan@sockermunk.se ) 5•1 year ago
This bill seems to be all sort of bad (maybe with some good intentions), really hope it doesn’t pass to not give other countries any ideas
- ISOmorph ( @ISOmorph@feddit.de ) 13•1 year ago
Please don’t fall in that trap. Authoritarian attacks on citizens have always been neatly wrapped in either anti-terrorism or protect-the-children propaganda since the dawn of politics. This is a very obvious and delibirate attempt to further remove freedom from the common folk.
- worfamerryman ( @worfamerryman@beehaw.org ) 4•1 year ago
It’s not really that hard to deploy a matrix server. So this bill is dumb as anyone who wants encrypted messages can easily have them.
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
I’m all for Matrix, but the things is, Matrix is primarily developed by people in the UK. They will be easily forced to implement backdoors.
- worfamerryman ( @worfamerryman@beehaw.org ) 2•1 year ago
That’s good to know🙏
Hopefully some trustworthy third party can audit the code if this ever becomes a thing.
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 3•1 year ago
I’m not sure auditing would be enough. We would literally need a development team outside of dictatoric countries like the UK, where such things can be forced.
- CoachDom ( @CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•1 year ago
Would VPN protect an individual against such actions?
- thejml ( @thejml@lemm.ee ) 6•1 year ago
VPN will encrypt your communications between your local PC/phone/device and the VPN server you connect to. After that, the data packet transits just as if you’re anywhere else. So if they can crack that encryption, your data is still open. They might not know where the packet came from, but if you are talking PII, that’s not really important. (Does it really matter what IP you had when you tell them your health history and name? Or full banking info?)
- CoachDom ( @CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 4•1 year ago
I really don’t like that.
Even if it will get dismissed/amended so it doesn’t ruin open and private internet, the direction it’s all going really worries me. Every couple of months/years you will hear that the governments are trying again and again…Eventually they will succeed - enter “1984”
- CoachDom ( @CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•1 year ago
What about decentralised solutions like Matrix? I think they would have hard time accessing anything if it’s stored on a private server. EDIT: Or is it on ISP level? So no matter how you access/communicate - it will all be scanned the point when data leaves your device and communicates with web.
- itchy_lizard ( @itchy_lizard@feddit.it ) 1•1 year ago
Why would they get a VPN to exit from the UK tho lol