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Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.
I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.
Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.
Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.
Oh Google.
A company that survives long enough eventually gets turned to the dark $ide. Greedy asshats will always ruin a good thing for their own benefit
Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That’s the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.
Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.
While I feel this is true there are so few privately owned companies that prove this as fact. Holds breath that steam never fucks over its customers
That’s likely in part due to the fact that they’d really like to he publicly traded.
There is also the B Corp designation (short for Public Benefit Corporation) which allows a company to balance its responsibility towards the share holders with some other benefit it aims to provide where the share holders aren’t the (only) beneficiaries.
'You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Google was so exciting. Gmail especially.
We were so keen to ditch yahoo messenger and msn as soon as facebook messenger came out too.
Now it all sucks.
Google didn’t have a plan to keep from becoming evil. They just had a cute motto.
since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.
That bit reminded me that my mom had a desktop application that takes messages for you when we were using the dial up.
Shoutout to Deviantart, they a real one
Shame you need an account now to download the old cursor packs and stuff
All of this led to me ditching all of those (except YouTube, this is without a real alternative due to the content exclusively hosted there) and starting to self-host my stuff and joining the Fediverse.
To have some sort of viable fediverse alternative to YouTube, the developers of it would have to abandon some of the free software principles that current fediverse platforms uphold. There needs to be a way to monetize to attract creators and get people to host the servers
Free in software should stand for freedom, not money. We need better ways for financing such software projects and creators making content on them.
Yeah free as in freedom not as in price.
The closest anyone’s come to a mechanism that would allow efficient financing of public goods like free software is quadratic funding. Unfortunately, there are unsolved issues with collusion and identity verification
If it were possible, I’d like to continually donate a given sum of money to an account that split the proceeds between the content creators and the people hosting. Granted, while I’m unemployed, the best I can do currently would be to donate hosting directly
Someone’s underestimating the age of the internet.
Eh. But what does it mean to be raised online? I think for that you need the availability of ever present internet connections in the form of mobile devices. I think the first kids raised online would have been born in 2003, and would have been 4, preschool age, in 2007 when the iPhone came out. Those kids are 16 now. If we want to set the standard for “raised online” as being “digital native” then I think we should dial back the range to when AIM was popular. Again, setting the standard for who could have been raised with that constant interconnectedness as being someone who was 4 at time of introduction would give us the first AIM connected people reaching age 30 right now.
The reality is, I think, in the middle. The first generation we could say was raised online is basically right in between those two ages, 23. The other standard we could try to set is, who is the first generation who doesn’t remember the internet as exciting, just instead a daily part of life
I am sorry to disappoint but people born in 2003 would be either 19 or 20 years old now. I know that it is hard to accept getting old.
I am bad at math
Yeah but…ordinary people were not dialing into BBS forums back then. We weren’t “raised” online like kids now are, we were able to log off anytime and not ever need it to function in society. That started changing in the early 2000s. All my kid’s school assignments are now done on a laptop on a district-owned cloud system. He hasn’t needed a pencil and paper in…I forgot how long.
If you’re around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.
Seriously, Eternal September was like 30 years ago.
Remember Fredryk Phox?
This is what neoliberalism does. It privatizes everything, including the individual. Everyone is a product. Everyone has a “brand”.
Right liberalism is about individual rights, economic freedom and freedom in general. Left-wing countries will give big tech more power cause they’ll have advantages over other companies and groups cause they have the money to pay for unnecessary laws that the left likes and they’ll be friends with the government. In countries even more on the left the problem will be the same but added that you won’t have any economic freedom and individual rights, small groups and companies will most likely not exist or die in the minute they’re created and you won’t be able to support them cause you basically doesn’t own your own money and the money will he spent on useless taxes that you supported. Your ideas give big tech power, you’re not the resistance but the perpetrator. Big techs have grown more and more as the world has become more leftist and you insist in not noticing the base of your mentality is helping big tech.
Wow man, bet you think it’s the LGBTs fault too and that the EU is some leftist place with less freedom than the US.
Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays…
Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays…
ouch, right in the freedom 😁
Had to come the commie of the area 😅
Money doesn’t fall from trees, if you’re not paying a service they must be making money from somewhere else.
One of these things is not like the other…
DeviantArt really caught me off guard… lol
I need to log into my old deviantArt account again. Those were fun times.
Don’t bother. Everything has a watermark on it now.
Vine taught me you’re worthless unless you’re making someone else money.
Sounds like it prepared you for the world economy
Like they say, if it’s free you’re the product.
Let vine rest easy
Who tf uses DA for furry porn? There are way better websites nowadays
Average beehaw user
Yeah its more fur affinity now
Monosodium Glutamate.
i cannot escape YouTube at all for sure and i do want to use instagram sometimes + GIB VINE
Use YouTube.com in firefox with u-block origin. Works well enough while not giving them ad revenue.
OR you can use piped to watch youtube videos
Or Invidious.
ReVanced checking in!
It’s buggy on occasion, but it works!
i do use newpipe and clipious from time to time
on computers sure on mobile well it works
Android, Firefox, uBlock Origin and Background Play Fix. Never going back.
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 5•1 year ago
Be the best product you can be, fellow meat bags
People are so quick to forget. Back when Netflix came out it’s appeal was offering movies for viewing online. People scoffed at it because TV was king and Netflix wasn’t on TV yet, smart TVs weren’t a thing and Roku had to be built as a middleman. “Why would I pay for that”. No one believed in the products in the way that people believe in Netflix and YouTube or Google or even twitter today.
Today every tv is smart, YouTube has a YouTube TV app, all these media companies have their own apps like paramount and ESPN, and people are willing to pay.
Are you high? Netflix wasn’t online, it was DVDs through the mail that you kept until you were ready for new ones. After its online became far more popular than the legacy service, people were still pissed when they announced they were going to stop the DVD mail, even when they stopped using that original service.
I think it’s sort of implied that the time period I’m referring to is when Netflix shifted it’s attention to the online service.
And what I’m saying is still valid. I remember my father scoffing at Netflix because he didn’t think it could compete with traditional TV.
I had a mythtv box with 1000 movies, 10s of thousands of TV episodes just so much stuff and a computer in every tv in the house. You could rewind live tv and skip ads. Most family members never switched the tv input to the mythtv box. The two that used it asked after two weeks, is there anything new?
they’re gonna make a movie about this
They did. It called “Wall Street” (1987), where they told us that, “greed is good.”