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WtfEvenIsExistence3️ ( WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com )  to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago

Would you steal if theft was not a crime? Why or why not?

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Would you steal if theft was not a crime? Why or why not?

WtfEvenIsExistence3️ ( WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com )  to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 years ago
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  • CoachDom ( CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Big companie/rich people - absolutely

    Small businesses/regular folks - nah

    • rufus ( rufus@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Robin Hood?

      • Didros ( Didros@beehaw.org ) 
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        Oh interesting!

        I immediately read that as:
        Big companies - “hell yeah we will steal from people”
        Normal people/sm business owners - “no thank you, we don’t want to steal, or be stolen from”

        That matches current statistics already since something like 75% of theft is wage theft in America.

      • CoachDom ( CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Nah, I would keep the treasures for myself 😁

  • Frater Mus ( fratermus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    No. My behavior is derived from ethics, not from law.

    • Helix 🧬 ( Helix@feddit.de ) 
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      What if the company you’re stealing from is ethically bankrupt?

      • CuriousG ( curiousgoo@beehaw.org ) 
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        Like Adobe / Microsoft / Google / Meta / … maybe most large enterprises ? No question about it.

        • Dubious_Fart ( Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml ) 
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          downloading software isnt theft, soooo unless you are breaking into their offices its not really stealin from them.

          • CuriousG ( curiousgoo@beehaw.org ) 
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            Warez piracy is anyway not “stealing” since you’re not taking the digital item away, tis something which can be infinitely copied.

          • Newwit ( Newwit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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            Meta, Google and Microsoft sell’s hardware though. Not too sure about adobe

  • vd1n ( vd1n@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Not from people that earned what they have. Corporations mmmm idk.

  • quinnly ( quinnly@lemmy.ml ) 
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    No, I wouldn’t want anyone to steal from me so why would I want to steal from anyone else?

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    • Unbeelievable ( Unbeelievable@beehaw.org ) 
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      Yes it would.

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        • Thorny_Thicket ( Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          Stealing as a concept has existed for way longer than laws are

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            • Unbeelievable ( Unbeelievable@beehaw.org ) 
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              Nonhuman animals, which don’t have laws, still steal from each other.

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                • Unbeelievable ( Unbeelievable@beehaw.org ) 
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                  Wiktionary defines it as: To take illegally, or without the owner’s permission, something owned by someone else without intending to return it.

  • the_frumious_bandersnatch ( the_frumious_bandersnatch@programming.dev ) 
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    I would collect taxes if I held the power of physical violence over a community. All taxation is theft, amiright?

    But seriously, stealing is a crime because prevailing thought within the community is that taking something that someone else has a claim on is wrong. If the prevailing thought was that it was not wrong, it wouldn’t be against the law, but we also would call it something else… Like taxation.

    • LoudWaterHombre ( loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      That is such a stupid take. Tax money is spend on things you use

      • the_frumious_bandersnatch ( the_frumious_bandersnatch@programming.dev ) 
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        I agree. Guess I should have put a /s on the slogan. But it’s still taking a portion of something that is technically owned by one person or group for the betterment of the community.

        Some people see that as theft and so would call it stealing even though there isn’t a law against it. My point is that this question is asked from a particular vantage point and what constitutes theft and the law may be different from one person to another.

        • LoudWaterHombre ( loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          Some people also think the earth is flat, it has nothing to do with reality.

      • ArcaneSlime ( ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Well tbf if someone stole my wallet at gunpoint but used a small portion of the money stolen to buy me lunch I’d still be pretty mad about him spending the rest of my money paying off his Haliburton credit card.

        • LoudWaterHombre ( loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          Yes, good thing this metaphor does not apply to tax

          • ArcaneSlime ( ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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            Yes, but the bad thing is that it does.

            • LoudWaterHombre ( loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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              Not a majority of the money is spend on corruption like where do you live in fucking Russia or something? Zimbabwe? Also noome forces you to stay in that country for sure. I also left my home country.

  • Lemminary ( Lemminary@lemmy.ml ) 
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    No. When I do something I’m not wondering if it’s against the law, I’m wondering how this affects someone else.

    • Newwit ( Newwit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Does it affect Tim Cook if you steal from Apple? There’s obviously a difference from situation to situation here

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        Yes, I’m aware of the obvious

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          Congrats, that’s more than what can be said about most.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky ( AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ) 
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    If you count software piracy, then yes. In fact, I’ll admit to having done it within the past year (without giving specific dates for obvious reasons).

  • Oha ( Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz ) 
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    I would only steal stuff from greedy corporations, not small companies that need money

  • Im28xwa ( Im28xwa@lemdro.id ) 
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    No because it is wrong

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