Your choice of browser matters — Google’s Web DRM and the open internet
https://grafcube.codeberg.page/blog/2023/08/06/web-drm-api.html
I wrote this blog post to inform the people I know who aren’t as tech savvy or otherwise don’t put any thought into their choice of browser. Another goal is to help get enough awareness on the topic and make sure it fails.
@opensource @privacy #webintegrityapi #WEI #google #mozilla #chrome #firefox #chromium #foss #opensource #OpenWeb #privacy #drm #nodrm #drmfree #freesoftware #browser
- Sky Cato ( @skycat@beehaw.org ) 22•2 years ago
“Sure, Chromiums code is available and you can modify and redistribute it. But if you want to send your changes to the main project so that more people may benefit from it, it is ultimately Google’s decision. This is the problem with projects that are not community-run.”
Google is asshole. This shows than NOT all open source codes are free as in freedom. Stallman is right.
ferralcat ( @ferralcat@monyet.cc ) 20•2 years agoI was in dehi recently. Poverty is kinda nuts there, but I noticed everyone had phones, even people who obviously had no home. I assume kinda shitty phones, but it makes you realize a bit how important access is. If someone releases an iOS only app with no web version, they’re basically saying fuck you to all those people.
Same same for this though. Googles saying “as long as you use our stuff you’ll be fine, and why wouldn’t you use our stuff because it’s free! (Sometimes kinda sorta). And if you’re stuck with something else for some reason, fuck you.”
Zerush ( @Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 13•2 years agoThis new invention from Google has nothing to do with the browser you use. It is an API incorporated into, with Google affiliates and its own, web pages, which allows these pages to block any browser “for security reasons”, when it does not have a Google Token incorporated, that accredits it as secure. That is, it is then Google itself who decides which browser is worthy to access the web. It doesn’t matter which browser you use, or incorporate this Token in it, or forget about a large part of the internet and anyway about any Google page or service (Gmail, YouTube, GDrive, GoogleMaps, …). This is the danger that the free internet faces, that Google decides which browser is worth using and which is not, being able to allow only Chrome itself as the only valid browser to access half of the pages on the network, and Game over for everyone else, Chromium, Gecko, WebKit or any other, without Google Token in it no internet, except if some geek comes up with some Fake Token which can be used (complicated)🤬.
Zerush ( @Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 7•2 years agoFor the downvoters, also Firefox and forks need to insert this Google Token in the Browser or die. Because of this Mozilla, Vivaldi and several others have started a protest before the legislator to prevent this crap. In the EU there is already a debate whether or not this is compatible with GDPR and user rights. We’ll see what comes of this. It is legitimate that Google provides tools to web pages to protect against entries from bots and insecure browsers, but it is not legitimate that the decision which browser is secure and which is not, depends on this company, only a certificate from an independent technical institution can be valid on technical grounds and not by Google itself for possible commercial reasons.
ZugZug ( @ZugZug@lemmy.ml ) 13•2 years agoFuck google.
mishimaenjoyer ( @mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social ) 12•2 years ago@grafcube it’s very important to push back against google’s browser hegenomy just like we did back in the day with microsoft because now it’s not just about one company controllin the software to access the majority of the web but the privacy of it.
Midas ( @midas@ymmel.nl ) 11•2 years agoYeah I’m completely over to firefox now. I can’t help but notice firefox mobile is still a bit sluggish though but eh
hevov ( @hevov@discuss.tchncs.de ) 10•2 years agoReally, Firefox on Android feels much better then Chrome for me. But maybe thats because of ublock.
katy ✨ ( @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 5•2 years agoHonestly the only issue I have with mobile firefox is how it refreshes when you app switch but I think that’s more of an android thing :(
whoareu ( @kionite231@lemmy.ca ) 4•2 years agoTry Fennec
Arghblarg ( @Arghblarg@lemmy.ca ) 10•2 years agoSeamonkey (Mozilla browser/email/news suite) still exists! https://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/
And there’s even still a build of uBlock Origin for it! https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/
There is still hope, if we keep the open tools alive…
Posted from freshly-installed Seamonkey browser with uBlock Origin :)
Hiccup ( @Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 9•2 years agoThere is no internet without Firefox. There is an internet without Google.
gram ( @orsinium@fosstodon.org ) 8•2 years ago@grafcube @opensource @privacy
> But why do you use Chrome?
I can tell why I do. I used to use Firefox but had to move to Chromium long time ago for several reasons:
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It was nicer on RAM on a very small machine I had at the time. I think Firefox got better in that sense since then.
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Many web apps don’t work quite well (or don’t work at all) on anything but Chrome. That’s a sin many lazy web developers make, and it forces their choice on the users.
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Mr. w00t ( @w00t@lemy.lol ) 6•2 years agoGood article actually! I think non-tech-savvy people will also appreciate some kind of TL;DR
Edit: didn’t know Codeberg can host static sites, definitely migrating mine there from Guthib!
- argv_minus_one ( @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org ) 6•2 years ago
If WEI proceeds, I won’t have a choice of browser. Or operating system.
Vint Prox ( @vintprox@techhub.social ) 5•2 years ago@grafcube @opensource @privacy
Yaaay, time to really push that SearX/alternative-search-engine crusade, because there is more reason for a user to say “fuck you” to the hungry machine.
Notsunya ( @Notsunya@sakurajima.moe ) 5•2 years ago@grafcube @opensource @privacy Very good blog post. I use a fork of LibreWolf called FireDragon with all the settings I used to use on LibreWolf select including blocking fingerprint tracking, total cookie protection, and also multiple containers for sites. Cookies are only saved for sites I specify and the rest are deleted on closure.
raptir ( @raptir@lemm.ee ) English7•2 years agoI remember WaterFox but this is getting ridiculous.
Tiritibambix ( @Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml ) 5•2 years agoExcellent write up. Thank you for doing this, I’ll share with my whole family and friends.
drifty ( @drifty@sopuli.xyz ) English4•2 years agoI use Floorp, works pretty well and has the option to look like Edge which I really like