In this thread lots of uninformed people rationalizing why it’s actually okay to use chromium.
It is ok to use whatever browser you want
I mean, define “ok” in this context
Will chrome kill you? No
Will chrome physically hurt anyone else because you used it? No
Will the internet become less free if google is able to successfully force this? Yes
Does using chrome contribute to this? Yes, marginally
Would as many people as possible switching off of chrome and chromium and onto an alternative help? Yes
I find this whole thing an interesting argument, as someone who switched from chrome to firefox for extremely unrelated reasons months ago.
The same people say “boycotts don’t work”. The facepalming here is hard. Welcome to the ad riddled future that you helped make because “people can use what they like” (because it’s being pushed by a huge corporate entity and they want you to use it so they can shove ads down your throat and you should laugh at people who would use anything different)
True fucking statement.
Most normal people don’t even know adblockers exist. Guys, if you’re going to convince people to switch away from Chrome, it won’t be on the grounds of protecting against some API or ads.
And thus the brave lammings set out to inform other lemmings, who are as tech savvy and know this is happening, that this is happening by posting memes. Hopefully the people, who would already be using firefox if they cared, switch to firefox so we can breach the 3% market share and that’ll show Google, maker of Chrome and Firefox’ main sponsor, people care enough to stop this madness! - I’m not against activism, but activism in an echochamber can turn into a circlejerk. Everyone stop stroking please… I’m here for the memes.
I’m not against activism
You just spent like 5 minutes reducing activism to “cIrClEjErK”. Can we leave that stupid ass phrase on reddit for Christ’s sake?
Just look at all the people in the comments patiently explaining what the problem is and what can be done. At what point would you consider this common knowledge that is propagated and confirmed because people on this plattform have reached consensus? It is good we had this discussion for a few days, plenty of awareness has been spread on lemmy. I’m proposing to stop posting about this topic as there is nothing new added except repetition that gains traction because we agree. Call that whatever you want.
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Did you mean annoying crypto browser?
Are you guys still using Chrome?
Yes, for now. But also brave, which I’m told I should stop doing as well. You can see how well I listen to advice.
if you want a decent browser, there is firefox and basically all its forks and brave
you shouldnt use brave if
- you dont want to support google, as brave is based on chromium
- you dont want to support the people behind it, as there are some people who say theyre bad people but i got no clue if its true
i dont like chromium so ill stick with firefox (and mullvad browser), even though im still technically supporting google since most of mozillas revenue is from google (though i believe it is better since its not software made by google)
Honestly, it’s mostly my comfort using chromium browsers (specifically chrome) for dev. I know the Firefox dev tools are way better than they used to be, but that’s one more thing to sink time into when I could instead just get things done lol.
But, it’s about that time.
you could try to degoogle chromium, if you want something similar to chrome
The past week every post has just been browser icons.
FFS, go browse the bottom of the Potomac.
Nice pun!
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Indeed. So boring and useless.
It feels like last week we were defending proprietary software, ads, and tracking against those mean old FOSS zealots who actually care about privacy and freedom. Are you saying we care about those things now?
We now know how much we do or don’t care about these things, based on all arguments provided. Some people might even give firefox a try after last week, which is great. I’m saying we have seen enough memes full of browser logo’s for now.
The only thing being defended was choice.
Firefox stans are some of the most annoying people.
Yes, I know I’m contributing to a Chromium monopoly, thank you for telling me. Firefox just doesn’t do the things I need my browser to do.
Google stans are ignorant as hell.
And what needs would that be?
Off the top of my head:
- Tab tiling
- Multi-level tab bars
- Workspaces
- Automatic session backups
- Sidebar panels
- Spotlight-like global search
- Commands to toggle parts of the Ul
- Custom toolbar buttons
I’m pretty sure that all of that are from extensions you would have installed for chrome?
Spotlight-like global search
Whats that supposed to mean? That you can use macOS Spotlight to search the web with? Yeah same thing with firefox, atleast under linux.
Commands to toggle parts of the Ul
Like pressing F12 for fullscreen?
Custom toolbar buttons
Like themes?
I’m pretty sure that all of that are from extensions you would have installed for chrome?
No? Chrome isn’t the only web browser in existence.
Whats [Spotlight-like global search] supposed to mean?
That I can bring up a search bar that’ll search my history, closed tabs, bookmarks, open tabs, the web and more all at once.
Like pressing F12 for fullscreen?
Not only that, also selectively hiding the tab bar, address bar or specific sidebar panels.
Like themes?
No, like custom toolbar buttons that do custom things when clicked.
fascinating. which browser are you using?
I’m using Vivaldi, made by a small but honest company in Norway: https://vivaldi.com/features/
Out of those who actually give a reason for this position, which is practically no one, it’s almost always “vertical tabs”. Apparently those people can’t use a search engine since there are multiple easily found extensions available that make FF do vertical tabs.
Then how about tab tiling, multi-level tab bars, workspaces, automatic session backups, sidebar panels, Spotlight-like global search, commands to toggle parts of the UI and custom toolbar buttons?
I can probably find an extension for most of these if I look hard enough, but then I’d have to worry about them being maintained and not sold out. At that point I’d rather use a browser that has all this built-in.
LMFAO, you’re an idiot. There’s nothing chrome can do that FF can’t do better.
@JokeDeity @HKayn, Tab groupings, PWAs, hibernate inactive Tabs, vertical tabs, casting on desktop, workspaces, compatibility with some webs, vertical tabs… well, maybe with a ton of extensions…
Oooooof, it’s amazing you couldn’t come up with a single thing that actually is true. Firefox can do all of that.
Who said anything about Chrome?
You verbally abuse me and hallucinate things I didn’t even mention. You’re exactly the kind of person I was talking about.
Bromite(android) and firefox(windows/linux/mac) 🔥
I like Firefox for Android. It has an extension to play YouTube videos in the background, and you can block ads using uBlock Origin. It also blocks ads on the mobile Twitter website, so I can avoid using those two shitty apps thanks to FF for Android.
I recently switched and I’m really enjoying the reader mode. Also, I highly recommend revanced for YouTube. (´ω｀)
I switched from bromite to firefox(with exactly those addons you mentioned activated) years ago because it just adblocks perfectly while bromitr had issues multiple times that were fixed only through updating the app.
I did too but it’s dead slow on my bacon
Fennec (android) and Firefox (PC) for most people
Will try out fennec too
Bromite was abandoned a long time ago. Highly recommend getting off of it ASAP as there have been critical security patvhes that it hasn’t gotten.
I mentioned this before but I’m not seeing any arm only(arm32) apks
For what?
Don’t use bromite it’s not maintained anymore, use cromite.
I mentioned this before but I’m not seeing any arm only(arm32) apks
Bromite hasn’t been updated in months, don’t use it.
I mentioned this before but I’m not seeing any arm only(arm32) apks
I don’t care what browser you use
Also I like Edge. It works great and Google can kiss my butt
If Google does push web DRM through, edge will surely adopt it. The best time to switch is now and there will no second best time if they actually do it.
Edge is based off chromium, same “engine” that powers Chrome. As most browsers are.
Yeah, it’s basically chrome without the bloat, less spying, and without the prohibition on ad blockers
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It spies for someone else though
Yeah, great alternative /s
Not really.
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Rage bait?
less spying
Don’t need that if you make the OS.
That’s fine but the point of the post is that you have to use a non chromium browser to avoid wei. Once it’s implemented it’s likely that edge and others will have to implement it too.
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It would be a monumental effort for smaller browsers to keep chromium extensions working, while the rest of the ecosystem moves to the new APIs. The only way that could work is if they all fork chromium and base their browsers on this new fork, and even then it’s not guaranteed to develop a real ecosystem of plugins since chrome has more users than all of those other chromium browsers combined.
So yeah you have to use Firefox if you want to avoid that, at least for now.
Thats what you get when you don’t care about single entities controlling the market.
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No, actually you are kissing googles but every day.
How big is your truck?
Microsoft is at least as bad as Google and has been for quite a bit longer.
Correct. We would not even be here if corporations could be trusted. Everyone needs to get this somehow. Federation (open source project development is kind of federated as well) is the key. Actually, we‘re having the same oppressive authoritarianism that gave birth to federated states. Looks like a pattern.
Are they stopping you personally?
I’ll stop using Chrome when I can’t block ads.
Better start moving to Firefox now because with WEI and Manifest V3 it’s not going to be very long until ads are unblockable
A lot of panics turn out to be nothing, or nowhere near as bad as people thought. No reason I can’t wait until it happens to move.
Those cucks aren’t going to stop using chrome, they like it and it’s good for them, so it’s a win win, they get their stupid people browser.
Meanwhile you flood lemmy instances with anti-LGBT memes. Gtfo clown 😂
I know that switching away from a Chromium based browser would be great, but Firefox just can’t compete with the Chromium bookmark system. That was actually the main reason I switched to Brave instead of Firefox a few years back, and from what I can see, Firefox still hasn’t changed anything about their bookmark-manager. :/
What do you mean? What is special about brave’s or chromiums bookmark manager?
Right what platinum coated bookmarks are they using? Firefox syncs bookmarks, has them organized by folders, has a bookmarks bar, can pin them to the start page, idk what else they need
As I’ve stated in the other comment, I mainly ment the UI. But there is another feature I like to use, which is the window-specific bookmark manager. I usually keep my browser activities separated with different windows(e.g. one for youtube documentaries and one for learning). With the Chromium manager, I can have one manager-tab per window. That’s not possible with the Firefox manager. It’s a small thing, but hey, it’s convenient.
Then again, the bookmark manager wasn’t the only reason I chose Brave over Firefox. If I remember correctly, I had three reasons why I chose Brave in the end:
- The bookmark manager - Reasons are stated here and in the other comment.
- Brave Ads - The privacy respecting ads make my mind feel at ease when using an adblocker, as I’m still contributing something.
- This one is the weakest one: Firefox just felt slower for me, to be honest.
I would’ve just put up with point three, but in order to leave the first two, Firefox would have to have other features I really want tu use. And that’s the problem - it doesn’t have those.
I probably should have specified that I meant the UI. You can do everything in Firefox, but for me, the Chromium UI just looks nicer, it’s “cleaner” for me, even if it comes at the cost of having the address-bar in a submenu, for example. Because I use the bookmark-manager quite often, that’s a majority points I consider. For 99% of the people, Firefox will do the job just as well as Chromium especially if you just use the bookmarks, not the manager. For some it probably looks even better. It’s just preference.
