ninjan ( @ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com ) English77•10 months agoPrivacy on a non-degoogled Android device is non existent. Just because only Google gets to munch on your data doesn’t equal privacy.
ɐɥO ( @Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz ) 36•10 months ago strawberry ( @strawberry@artemis.camp ) 4•10 months agodoes changing ur os void ur warranty?
Raistlin ( @raistlin@lemmy.sdf.org ) 8•10 months agoEhhh, technically but its hard for them to tell if your able to switch back before turning it in. And if it doesn’t boot then well… It’s not going to be much of an issue then. Also it is a bit legally grey if companies can void you warrenty solely for installing a custom ROM.
bobs_monkey ( @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ) 2•10 months agoI know with OnePlus, they wipe your phone right out the gate when you send it in for repairs. I’ve had mine fixed twice and never had an issue.
Raistlin ( @raistlin@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•10 months agoOneplus allows it in its warranty I believe
pacjo ( @pacjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English3•10 months agoDepends on the brand. Xiaomi will (in most cases) service the phone even if the bootloader was unlocked and os changed, you just need to restore it to stock state. I haven’t personally tried this, but I heard multiple stories confirming this.
Mark ( @markpaskal@lemmy.ca ) 31•10 months agoYou can’t even install DNS66 from the play store because Google bans apps that block ads. This meme is way off the mark and I’m and android fanboy.
You can get it off f-droid
limerod ( @limerod@reddthat.com ) 5•10 months agoYou can still install it from fdroid or github. And there’s an alternative called PersonalDNSFilter if you really wanted an app from the play store.
SeaJ ( @SeaJ@lemm.ee ) 30•10 months agoThe operating system that Google created to collect your data is secure? Not unless you get rid of all the Google services.
miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 20•10 months agoDon’t confuse privacy and security. Android is a very secure system.
CandyDumDub ( @LambLeeg@lemm.ee ) English13•10 months agoAndroid is AOSP, it has no Google at all. Don’t confuse OEM ROMs and Android Open Source Project. As someone with GrapheneOS I can only laugh when someone calls iOS more private
miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 4•10 months agoI don’t confuse anything. All flavours of Android are secure systems, but that doesn’t mean they’re all private.
I definitely agree with you that Graphene is more private than iOS, which is probably more private than most OEM Android systems out there.
Hovenko ( @Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi ) English2•10 months agoYes yes you are special and precious.
HiT3k ( @HiT3k@beehaw.org ) English30•10 months agoThis is such a brain dead take. You cannot compare an OS from one developer to a device from another unspecified manufacturer with no context. No one would claim that a Samsung phone is more private than an iPhone, regardless of the “potential” in the context of degoogling, or the niche privacy switch that’s present on less than 1/10,000 Android devices sold.
AItoothbrush ( @AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ) English9•10 months agoYeah its much more fair to compare pixel devices to iphones. And it still matters if you install a custom rom onto it or not. In my use case yes a pixel is more secure but a lot of people who just go with the out if the box experience may be safer with apple.
June ( @June@lemm.ee ) 29•10 months agoThe whiplash between posts on Lemmy is so great.
Everyone seems to hate google and how invasive they are while simultaneously simping for google’s mobile OS
This shit is so stupid.
Alien Nathan Edward ( @reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ) 22•10 months agoIf one person believes one thing and another person believes the opposite, that doesn’t mean they’re hypocrites. That means there isn’t a consensus. Besides, android can be better than iOS and deserving of criticism at the same time.
VikingHippie ( @VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf ) 20•10 months agoOr maybe people hate Google ruining the internet AND realise that iOS is still much worse than Android? The two things are in no way mutually exclusive unless you view the world as a tribal binary.
miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 7•10 months agoAndroid can be whatever a dedicated community wants it to be, since it’s open source at its AOSP core.
I love AOSP, but I hate what Google does with it. Or most other manufacturers, for that matter.
chocobo13z ( @chocobo13z@pawb.social ) 4•10 months agoChromium is open source, too, but so many projects putting all their eggs in the same basket gives Google carte blanche to push any standard they want as a new de-facto standard before the rest of us can decide on whether it’s ready or needs changes or is just bad.
Simplesyrup ( @Simplesyrup@lemmy.ml ) 6•10 months agoAndroid is less secure then apple tbh its so bloated with Google crap
XpeeN ( @XpeeN@sopuli.xyz ) 5•10 months agoI don’t see any bloat on my lineageOS phone.
worfamerryman ( @worfamerryman@beehaw.org ) 4•10 months agoThe average android user doesn’t have the ability to use lineageos. None of the android phones in my home even have support. So its not really a fair to talk about lineage when comparing android to iOS.
I could be wrong, but doesn’t lineageos have problems accessing banking apps since its missing some kind of DRM?
Maybe this I’d a solved issue at this point.
XpeeN ( @XpeeN@sopuli.xyz ) 1•10 months agoWell yeah but from where I see it, I can choose thàe phone I buy, so I choose a supported one.
Also, I’m using microg and most apps work. But I mostly use the website anyway so uBO step in too.
Simplesyrup ( @Simplesyrup@lemmy.ml ) 3•10 months agoNot custom os stock android
Ecology8622 ( @Ecology8622@lemmy.ml ) English28•10 months agoIOS has DNS profiles.
qjkxbmwvz ( @qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org ) 9•10 months agoFor wifi, I was pleasantly surprised that I could set a custom DNS on iOS while still using DHCP for other settings. Can only set DNS on Android if I use manual IP (or just use Wireguard).
Edit: not true, Android can have custom DNS with DHCP, see below.
Apeeksiht ( @Apeeksiht@lemdro.id ) English1•10 months agoDoes iOS have button to disable camera and mic access all together?
Bipta ( @Bipta@kbin.social ) 7•10 months agoButton to disable all sensors? Which phone has this?
torafugu ( @torafugu@artemis.camp ) 7•10 months agoMy phone has it.
smileyhead ( @smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ) 9•10 months agoAnd how can we be sure it’s doing what it says? It’s software, on most phones you don’t control software that is running above apps layer.
db2 ( @db2@sopuli.xyz ) 4•10 months agoEspecially if it’s straight out of China. I just kicked back a fake 11 tablet that was actually 7. The OP advice is only useful if you’re running a rom that you can at least audit the source of.
pewpew ( @pewpew@feddit.it ) 1•10 months agoTry rotating the screen or using the camera
Bipta ( @Bipta@kbin.social ) 4•10 months agoThat just proves that you can’t use the sensors.
smileyhead ( @smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ) 2•10 months agoApps can have denied permission from the system, but the operating system can toggle it back for itself or just lie to you.
The only defence agains manufacturer is having free software OS. And the only way against third-party malware are hardware switches.
miss_brainfart ( @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml ) 2•10 months agoEven something as degoogled as DivestOS will override your permissions and sensor settings to make the dialer app work in all circumstances. So who knows what proprietary apps that many people need might exploit this possibility.
Like you say, unless you physically disconnect the hardware, you can never now.
pewpew ( @pewpew@feddit.it ) 1•10 months agoThat’s true, but you can always flash Lineage OS or just stock AOSP if there’s a version for your device
torafugu ( @torafugu@artemis.camp ) 1•10 months agoIt is a shame that my phone’s bootloader is locked. It’s a TracFone.
Hovenko ( @Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi ) English1•10 months agoLibrem phone has physical switches to turn off shit.
HerraThykki ( @HerraThykki@kbin.social ) 4•10 months agoPretty accurate, though google does collect a lot of data…
Jacobp100 ( @Jacobp100@lemmy.ml ) 3•10 months agoDidn’t google only recently get the ability to block apps access to stuff like your camera, microphone, files etc? That was in iOS over a decade ago
heimchen ( @heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de ) 2•10 months agoIts just now possible to turn it off for all apps with one swipe and on click. Like I know WhatsApp need Microphone access for voicemail, but I can turn off the access for all apps with one click and turn it one for all apps with access when I need it
madkarlsson ( @madkarlsson@beehaw.org ) 1•10 months agoNo, its been there for about the same time ios. A few years ago now they changed it so that the permissions are asked for from inside the app (when X is used) instead of when installing if that is what you are thinking about