- Chozo ( @Chozo@kbin.social ) 202•1 year ago
This is misleading. Not sure if by ignorance or malice, but it’s very misleading.
This isn’t happening with your browser bookmarks. This is Google Collections, which is a shareable bookmarking feature, meaning it can be made publicly available. That’s why it’s moderated. It’s basically Google’s version on something like Pinterest.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English22•1 year ago
Even so - it’s not an excuse meddle with it, whatever you call it. Fuck Google.
- Lexi Sneptaur ( @Sneptaur@pawb.social ) English60•1 year ago
You should be mad about the things google does. I don’t think this particular thing is unreasonable though.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English8•1 year ago
Why not?
- smoothbrain coldtakes ( @canis_majoris@lemmy.ca ) 36•1 year ago
They have a duty to moderate public-facing systems. This is a link/bookmark sharing system, so obviously bookmarks that are pointing to things that are illegal are going to be dealt with.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English7•1 year ago
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OP claimed it’s his private bookmarks not facing public
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the site doesn’t contain any illegal content. It’s just google being overzealous and intrusive
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Google Keep Notes has a sharing note feature. You think it would ok for them to sniff what you noting and delete it if they didn’t like it?
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one again - there’s nothing illegal on that website, nor is accessing it or sharing it’s address
- Chozo ( @Chozo@kbin.social ) 17•1 year ago
OP claimed it’s his private bookmarks not facing public
OP is mistaken. Read the email in the screenshot.
- smoothbrain coldtakes ( @canis_majoris@lemmy.ca ) 3•1 year ago
Let’s try reading the articles before discussing them, next time.
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- LoafyLemon ( @LoafyLemon@kbin.social ) 3•1 year ago
They don’t have to, they choose to. You can share bookmarks on Firefox, but Mozilla doesn’t filter nor censor them Orwellian style.
- smoothbrain coldtakes ( @canis_majoris@lemmy.ca ) 7•1 year ago
I’m pretty sure there are reasonable expectations by governments that you maintain adequate moderation, especially the EU. If Mozilla were to deploy a public facing system and not moderate it, they would catch hell from the EU and likely be fined out the ass.
- bermuda ( @bermuda@beehaw.org ) English6•1 year ago
Orwellian is when company does thing I don’t like
- smoothbrain coldtakes ( @canis_majoris@lemmy.ca ) 5•1 year ago
No, that’s when they’re fascists
- LoafyLemon ( @LoafyLemon@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
No, it’s when the company attempts to assume the role of a governing body and delves into the privacy of people’s bedrooms.
- darcmage ( @darcmage@lemm.ee ) English15•1 year ago
If you’re going to store something on someone else’s computer (Google cloud), they have every right to control what is and is not allowed on their systems. Don’t like it? Use encryption, selfhost, etc…
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English2•1 year ago
I would love to hear that from Google’s spokesperson.
- sadreality ( @sadreality@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
This person fucks.
Chad comment although I agree with other person that this is not the worst of Google’s crimes.
- hh93 ( @hh93@lemm.ee ) 5•1 year ago
So if you have a collection with political targets and the folder is just google maps links to their houses with their names as the bookmark name google shouldn’t be allowed to stop you from spreading this?
Sure google is shitty but this feature is designed to share links with other people and sometimes those links can be dangerous so imho it’s absolutely necessary to moderate them at some level.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English3•1 year ago
Depends if it’s illegal or not. In your case it’s probably illegal.
- hh93 ( @hh93@lemm.ee ) 5•1 year ago
In that case they deleted a link to illegal content in their jurisdiction - so should be fine - shouldn’t it?
- JokeDeity ( @JokeDeity@lemm.ee ) 9•1 year ago
IMO defending Google is the underhanded move.
- Otter ( @otter@lemmy.ca ) English43•1 year ago
Sharing misleading info means people are less likely to believe you on real issues.
Firefox IS better, Chrome’s meddling IS a problem. We don’t need to make stuff up in favor of that, and clarifying the point isn’t “defending Google”
- smoothbrain coldtakes ( @canis_majoris@lemmy.ca ) 19•1 year ago
Every single comment chain on this thread besides this chain are 100% wrong and operating on misleading information. I fucking hate how up in arms people get when they don’t even have the full picture - even the basics, like having read the fucking article.
- Chozo ( @Chozo@kbin.social ) 23•1 year ago
DAE GOOGLE BAD???
I don’t give a fuck if you like Google or not, but spreading misleading FUD is the real underhanded move.
There are plenty of valid reasons to be critical of Google. This ain’t one.
- Zorque ( @Zorque@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
IMO targeting someone you don’t like with antipathy regardless of their actions is a sociopathic move.
- sabreW4K3 ( @sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf ) English38•1 year ago
All the more reason to switch to Firefox
- Franzia ( @Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•1 year ago
Yeah Ive not heard of Pocket getting meddled with yet
- Otter ( @otter@lemmy.ca ) English1•1 year ago
Yep I use Firefox for everything, but I keep chrome installed as a backup when needed.
The most common reason for opening chrome is for Google related things. Certain google docs features like the add-ons store only worked in Chrome, but the add-ons themselves work anywhere. Or signing into Google Drive desktop app failed when the auth window opened in Firefox or Edge, but it worked in Chrome.
I just thought that was Chrome breaking things in other browsers intentionally, since no other services had that kind of issue.
- AnonTwo ( @AnonTwo@kbin.social ) 17•1 year ago
There was a post on this yesterday.
They are moderating something, the issue with the article was it’s not user’s bookmarks. It’s some app-specific feature called collections.
edit: it’s the same post…it’s a bit weird linking a direct link to a lemee.ee post when they get federated here anyway…
- smoothbrain coldtakes ( @canis_majoris@lemmy.ca ) 8•1 year ago
That’s something I hate about the fediverse is that we have so many layers of links that you never get the original article, you get seven recursive links to other federated sites and maybe if you’re lucky on the last link you find the original article.
- ram ( @ram@lemmy.ca ) English16•1 year ago
What the actual hell? I hate this so much. Google won’t touch right-wing extremist content, yet they’ll just poof your bookmarks? Bullshit.
- Facebones ( @Facebones@reddthat.com ) 9•1 year ago
Well right wing extremists support their right to consume and subjugate the entire web into their jurisdiction, so… No real surprise they back the fascists and their openly violent goals and rhetoric.
For fun though put some content on there about using violence to defend against their violence and see how quick you get moderated into oblivion 😂
- Platform27 ( @Platform27@lemmy.ml ) English13•1 year ago
Honestly, I’m not surprised. Not just because of their lack of privacy (them knowing your bookmarks), but also legally. Some countries are trying to crack down on piracy, and other illegal material, asking companies (like Google) to do this.
Bottom line, don’t use Chrome, and Google Sync.
- Chozo ( @Chozo@kbin.social ) 5•1 year ago
This doesn’t involve your browser bookmarks. Google Collections is a link sharing tool.
- Rhaedas ( @Rhaedas@kbin.social ) 2•1 year ago
It doesn’t feel legal. A bookmark is textual data you’ve stored on your computer for later reference, and while it is on their application, somehow this feels wrong. It’s definitely wrong ethically, but is there something in the user agreement that says they have full reign of whatever the browser can touch?
- Platform27 ( @Platform27@lemmy.ml ) English3•1 year ago
Pretty much everything you do on Chrome gets sent to Google. It is one of, if not the worst browsers, for privacy. Their Privacy Policy is pretty clear on this. It’s all for a better “user experience”.
- Franzia ( @Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•1 year ago
There’s a comment above explaining that this isn’t quite the same as bookmarks
- rzlatic ( @rzlatic@lemmy.ml ) 12•1 year ago
laughing in firefoxian.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English5•1 year ago
It’s like big tech corporations have been having a tournament called ‘Who’s Most Fucked Up’ Cup for past few years, we’re getting into the finals lately and Google and Microsoft are favourites for the golden medal.
- jet ( @jet@hackertalks.com ) English5•1 year ago
well beyond don’t be evil
- Written2323 ( @Written2323@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
Not bookmarks. Google collection
- umami_wasabi ( @umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
I wonder how they did it. The sync data is supposed to be protected by E2EE where the key is derived from the user password or an separate sync password, at least before I abandon Chrome and go FF few years ago.
- Platform27 ( @Platform27@lemmy.ml ) English5•1 year ago
Last I looked, Chrome’s sync is not E2EE. Next to nothing (user space) is E2EE, in Google’s ecosystem. By default it’s only Encryption in Transit. I think you can enable a Passphrase (encryption on device), but that’s optional.
- umami_wasabi ( @umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
Idk then. I had a separate sync password which will not sync anything after logged on in Chrome until I gave that password.
Encrypted between… Chrome and Chrome? Two installations of Google’s non-FOSS browser? You never really had control over that data.
- umami_wasabi ( @umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 year ago
At least what they claim to be back then.