I’ve been seeing a lot of people hate and uninstall Brave. Why? It’s not like they’re tracking us or doing anything else shady. If so, what’s the privacy alternative?

  • Takeshidude ( Takeshidude@beehaw.org ) 
    24·
    3 years ago

    Google sure is. Brave is a chromium-based browser - a browser that is built off of Google Chrome, so anything Google wants to put in their web browser to track you and devour your internet-soul is also in Brave and all the other “web browsers” that are just chromium skins like Edge.

    • El_Rocha ( El_Rocha@lm.put.tf ) 
      16·
      3 years ago

      Just because Brave forks of Chromium, that doesn’t mean they have to accept every change Google does and they can also do their own changes (ex: not supporting Manifest V3).

      At least they are financially independent from Google, which you can’t say about Firefox.

        • hedgehog ( hedgehog@ttrpg.network ) 
          7·
          3 years ago

          Apple devices with Safari only.

          Google pays Apple over 30 times what they pay Mozilla ($15 billion vs $450 million - both annually in 2021) to make the Google search engine the default in their browser.

        • El_Rocha ( El_Rocha@lm.put.tf ) 
          2·
          3 years ago

          I just think it’s stupid people are always crying that Chromium forks are “controlled by Google” when they can do whatever they want with the fork.

          I’m not saying that Firefox is bad because they take Google’s money.

          I just think that if you consider that, they are more dependent on Google than Brave is.

          And since one of the main complaints of people is that they want to turn away from Google stuff, that should be taken into consideration.

            • millie ( millie@beehaw.org ) 
              6·
              3 years ago

              I’m with you up until the use of all of this to discourage getting away from Google stuff. Just because Google is also involved in open source doesn’t mean that their other projects become more trustworthy, or that the safety of those open source projects should automatically come into question.

              If Google pulls out of Gnome, it’d affect Gnome but it wouldn’t obliterate it. Likewise, somebody would probably take over some form of a hard fork of Chromium. But if Google drops support on something you’ve made an essential part of your workflow, you’re in trouble.

              The point of getting away from Google as much as possible isn’t to exist in a world without Google, it’s to avoid having a single point of failure and to avoid putting literally all your data into the hands of a company that will use it however they can to profit. Half my duck duck go searches get a !g at the front, and Firefox or no, I’m still on an android phone, but that doesn’t mean I’m trying to hand them all my notes for work that isn’t finished yet so they can regurgitate its component parts. Train on my stuff all you want, but at least let me finish it first.

              Google right now is like a bad relationship. It’s gotten completely wrapped up in our way of life to the point that it’s overly comfortable doing a half-assed or self-serving job and knowing most people won’t bother to shake things up looking for something better.

              It’s probably best if we all get a little space from megacorps like Google, even if we don’t abandon the relationship entirely.

      • CrypticCoffee ( CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml ) 
        8·
        3 years ago

        If Google pay the best search price that funds browser development, why not? Firefox aren’t in the search market. They could easily go bing or yahoo like they used previously, but more income means more money away for building modern web browsers which are millions of lines of code.

        Brave don’t need to do that because Google codes their browser for them.