master5o1 ( @master5o1@lemmy.nz ) English32•10 months agog
wjrii ( @wjrii@kbin.social ) 12•10 months agoGTFO! Clearly a drawing of a sanitary door hook. This is war!
Bendavisunlv6 ( @Bendavisunlv6@lemmynsfw.com ) English28•10 months agoIronically, doing research is the best way to be right. What people want is to feel right without having to think very hard. Feelings don’t really require energy in the same way that thinking does.
agent_flounder ( @agent_flounder@lemmy.one ) English12•10 months agoMore than just research is needed and that’s what many miss. One must be able to reliably evaluate the quality of evidence to sort fact from baloney. Doing so requires critical thinking, the ability to be able to poke holes in theories regardless of whether you like them or not, and the willingness to be wrong and, above all else, the mental flexibility to update your knowledge when proven so. Not everyone is able to do that.
I am used to being wrong a lot so it comes naturally lol.
Agent_of_Kayos ( @Agent_of_Kayos@lemm.ee ) English3•10 months agoI end most of my thoughts with “but I may be wrong”
Kelsenellenelvial ( @Kelsenellenelvial@lemmy.ca ) English2•10 months agoPlus the methodology. There’s an idea of actively seeking out research contrary to one’s hypothesis, this helps circumvent the confirmation bias of only looking for things that support a hypothesis and ignoring anything contradictory. It can be healthy to find and consider dissenting opinions.
Another fundamental issue is people using different meanings for similar words. Someone with a strong understanding of scientific method will say things like “I believe” or “studies show”, while someone else will say things like “This is” or “we know”. Colloquially the latter is stronger language conveying more confidence, but the former is more likely to be evidence based. “Theory” is used colloquially the way a scientist would use “hypothesis”. People will say “I have a theory”, that’s only a few sentences and doesn’t make any reliable predictions, the put down an actual theory backed by years of supporting evidence and peer review as “just a theory”.
reverendsteveii ( @reverendsteveii@beehaw.org ) English2•10 months agoThe problem arises from the fact that the internet in particular incentivizes attracting attention above all other things and there’s no incentive for being correct, nuanced or well-researched. Combine that with the fact that people like to be right about things and doubly so when everyone else is wrong about it and you create a world where conspiracy, woo and other bullshit is actually an industry. I feel like that’s part that always gets lost in these discussions: people are making money from this.
some_guy ( @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ) English27•10 months agoSomeone, somewhere, will misrepresent this to give credence to the “do your own research” crowd.
Which is not to discredit the message. They misrepresent everything.
MudMan ( @MudMan@kbin.social ) 22•10 months agoSee, this meme is annoyed at the ramifications of epistemological relativism.
I am extremely annoyed by the superfluous commas.
DragonTypeWyvern ( @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ) English14•10 months agoThey aren’t superfluous. They, ironically, indicate authorial intent for sentence flow.
MudMan ( @MudMan@kbin.social ) 17•10 months agoUnless the authorial intent is to read it in your head as performed by a William Shatner impersonator they are outright wrong. That predicate has been split so finely it’s outright minced.
Here’s a fun trick for sentence structure that helps with punctuation: replace clauses with single words and see if the sentence still looks good:
“Just because you are right, does not mean, I am wrong.”
“This, means, that. Mr. Spock.”Mmmminced.
DragonTypeWyvern ( @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ) English6•10 months agoIn yet another display of irony, you potentially demonstrated correct use in dialogue to indicate pauses in the speaker’s speech.
MudMan ( @MudMan@kbin.social ) 6•10 months agoNo, I didn’t. I don’t know who teaches people that commas represent small pauses in speech, but they’re not helping.
That’s what the ellipsis is for. If you want to correctly do fake Shatner you do
“This… means… that, Mr. Spock”.
That’s where the comma should go, by the way. You use it to separate the vocative. I had to use a period in the incorrect sentence above just to avoid the redundancy with the incorrect ones splitting the verb from the subject and the object.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) English4•10 months agoAs long as the intended reading was conveyed, what’s the problem?
Using commas as pauses in speech gets the intent across, even if it isn’t the “correct” punctuation. That’s why people keep doing it. People read your examples of Shatnerisms with commas and think its fine, and if enough people think it’s fine then it actually is. Rules aren’t real.
The OP is garbage, though. It comes across as stuttery and, like you said, minced.
MudMan ( @MudMan@kbin.social ) 5•10 months agoI mean, yeah…
…that’s why when you see it done wrong you call it out. So the wrong way to do it doesn’t become the new normal and you have to spend the rest of your life seeing people write “your an idiot”.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) English1•10 months agoIf it’s the new normal then, by definition, it’s not wrong.
It’s just whining about aesthetics at that point.
DragonTypeWyvern ( @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ) English2•10 months agoEnglish professors.
The ellipses indicate longer pauses.
You really need to stop embarrassing yourself, man, and figure out the difference between incorrect usage and usage you don’t like.
MudMan ( @MudMan@kbin.social ) 4•10 months agoNo, they don’t. The difference between commas and ellipses is not at the length of the pause. Commas don’t necessarily correlate to a pause at all in many cases, and separating the verb from the subject with a comma is straight-up wrong. I hate to link to sources of authority in stuff like this because it’s patronizing as hell, but I promise you can look this up.
I know somebody told you that’s it’s about conveying speech pauses, and I’m sorry you had to find out in the middle of an Internet argument where you tried to show up a pedant, so now you’re entrenched and will refuse to back down for all eternity, but… yeah, no, that sentence is wrong.
blackbrook ( @blackbrook@mander.xyz ) English4•10 months agoNo it’s actually worse than superfluous commas, and the author is using them where things like periods ought to be. The author does not actually understand how use sentences properly.
Ilflish ( @Ilflish@lemm.ee ) English8•10 months ago“The building is behind me therefore it’s a six”
“But the number should be facing away from the building therefore it’s a nine”
Me, an intellectual: “I want egg”
Maultasche ( @Maultasche@feddit.de ) English8•10 months agoの
WtfEvenIsExistence ( @WtfEvenIsExistence@lemmy.ca ) English7•10 months agoIt’s a 8 but the funding to repaint it got lost into the bureaucracy somehow.
xuxxun ( @xuxxun@beehaw.org ) English6•10 months agoi see the hiragana “no”
PizzaDeposit ( @PizzaDeposit@lemm.ee ) English4•10 months agoThat’s so deep. I’m shooketh.
Pendulla ( @Pendulla@lemdro.id ) English4•10 months agoWhat is ruining this world is that people are too lazy to crop their screenshots and make better looking posts with no wasted space. 😊 Just an opinion.
To all native speaker complaining about grammar: please translate the meme into german or french (without using AI)
leprasmurf ( @leprasmurf@lemmy.geekforbes.com ) English3•10 months agoIt’s the logo for the nearby eyeglasses repair shop!
Calavera ( @calavera@lemm.ee ) English2•10 months agoI think someone needs to check if they have asperger