- balderdash ( @balderdash9@lemmy.zip ) 89•10 months ago
I don’t want to sound like an incel, and I like eating vag/salad as much as the next guy, but imagine this image with the genders reversed
- Franklin ( @Franklin@lemm.ee ) 36•10 months ago
IMO either party doing this is fine as long as it’s discussed and within the comfort bounds of the people in the relationship.
I think the problem is an expectation when there has been no discussion about whether or not it’s within someone’s limits.
- balderdash ( @balderdash9@lemmy.zip ) 49•10 months ago
I have no issue with oral sex between consenting adults. But this meme would not be as well received if the genders were reversed. It’s hard to even imagine someone posting “always be there for your man in a time of crisis” with the woman going down on the guy.
- Franklin ( @Franklin@lemm.ee ) 17•10 months ago
I can only speak for myself but I wouldn’t really mind it the other way around as long as there’s no implied use of force or manipulation.
- papertowels ( @papertowels@lemmy.one ) 14•10 months ago
I believe “consenting” is key here.
The reason why it’s taboo if the genders were reversed is because there is a long and well documented history of non-consent when genders are reversed.
Was there non-consent where gals are forcing guys? Very likely. However what evidence I’ve seen suggests this is dwarfed by guys forcing gals.
- Cylusthevirus ( @Cylusthevirus@kbin.social ) 12•10 months ago
Yes, I suppose if you ignore every single bit of the last few hundred years worth of context, it would be hard to understand why people might be ok with this, but not necessarily the reverse.
Fortunately that context is available to you, so what I have trouble understanding is why you’re not accounting for that. Maybe you could elaborate, or perhaps do some perspective taking on why historically oppressed groups have certain sensitivities that privileged groups do not have. You might even come to realize that treating everyone exactly the same after not doing so for a very long time doesn’t come across as terribly fair. Because, you know, it isn’t.
- balderdash ( @balderdash9@lemmy.zip ) 16•10 months ago
You’ve conceded my point that it would be insensitive if we reversed the genders. So now the question is whether it is okay for us to show women doing something to men in cases where we are not comfortable with men doing that same action to women.
And here I’m going to respectfully disagree. I do not agree with your claim that being a part of a more historically oppressed group comes with a different set of standards for behavior. This is like saying its fine for obese people to make fun of skinny people–but not vice versa–because the obese people have more often been marginalized in society. We wouldn’t accept that reasoning in the case of body type and we also shouldn’t accept it in the case of gender.
- ParsnipWitch ( @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ) 4•10 months ago
So now the question is whether it is okay for us to show women doing something to men in cases where we are not comfortable with men doing that same action to women.
I think what you actually are aiming at is the question: Why is this meme upvoted? And why do you think the meme with reversed genders wouldn’t be?
I bet you want to tell us.
- Yoru ( @Yoru@lemmy.ml ) 4•10 months ago
im gonna post a reversed version of this im really curious what’ll happen
- xor ( @xor@infosec.pub ) 1•4 months ago
part of the joke is the reversal of the stereotype.
breaking stereotypes = good
enforcing stereotypes = bad
- AItoothbrush ( @AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ) English35•10 months ago
Yes i imagined it, very nice. Whats the next step?
- balderdash ( @balderdash9@lemmy.zip ) 43•10 months ago
- Knusper ( @Knusper@feddit.de ) 29•10 months ago
I agree that it would look quite different with the genders reversed. However, gender equality is not like mathematical equality, where every situation needs to be reversible.
Women have traditionally been less sex-positive and less dominant, which many consider indicators of a lack of true gender equality, so a progressive community will celebrate a reversal of that.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 22•10 months ago
Nothing wrong with a consenting partner
- balderdash ( @balderdash9@lemmy.zip ) 19•10 months ago
Yes, but not quite the point I was making
- Batman ( @Batman@lemmy.ca ) 3•10 months ago
I guess the problem is the assumption that the man is consenting. A meme is not a place to go for realistic depictions of sex, though. I think this one is playing off that to create conflict/engagement.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 1•10 months ago
It’s a joke. People lost their sense of humor
- Draedron ( @Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English7•10 months ago
What would be the issue then? 2 consenting people can show each other what they want sexually, no matter the gender
- Holzkohlen ( @Holzkohlen@feddit.de ) 6•10 months ago
In my mind she has a cock. She also is built like an amazon, so she can just lift me up and flip me round for some standing 69. Nice
- ParsnipWitch ( @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ) 6•10 months ago
Unless you have proof, this claim of yours is simply a fantasy. In fact, you can find plenty of spaces online where memes like this one, but with the genders reversed, are shared and well liked and sometimes they even mean what they depict unironically.
Actually, this very posts proofs you wrong, since yours and the comment “Bonk” (which just means “too horny”) are the top liked comments.
It really does seem like you just want to soapbox an opinion.
- balderdash ( @balderdash9@lemmy.zip ) 6•10 months ago
You can find spaces online for literally any position you like.
I concede your point that my comment got upvoted but 1) I didn’t know how many upvotes it would get before I commented and 2) The post itself is still heavily upvoted. I’m just offering a dissenting opinion to the post’s popularity; I’m not on a soapbox.
- bennypr0fane ( @bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de ) 6•10 months ago
It would be fine in a porn comic, but provoke a scandal in a “regular” memes community
- ParsnipWitch ( @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ) 1•10 months ago
There are plenty of memes which are sexist towards women. They just aren’t perceived as sexist but simply as “funny”.
- rotopenguin ( @rotopenguin@infosec.pub ) English3•10 months ago
I ain’t never dined at the Y, I am by any reasonable definition an incel…
But geez dude, lighten up.
- RagnarokOnline ( @RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com ) 63•10 months ago
Bonk
- Wizarded ( @Wizarded@lemm.ee ) 21•10 months ago
Believe it or not…
- stebo02 ( @stebo02@sopuli.xyz ) 22•10 months ago
We never have boners because of horny jail!
- JokeDeity ( @JokeDeity@lemm.ee ) 46•10 months ago
Aren’t memes supposed to be funny? This just looks like a shitty Tumblr post.
Haha 450 up 55 down, so 8 times as many people think its funny then dont.
Haha 3 times as many people dislike this comment
- balderdash ( @balderdash9@lemmy.zip ) 5•10 months ago
Wait, we can see the upvote / downvote ratio?
- HeneryHawk ( @HeneryHawk@thelemmy.club ) 13•10 months ago
Some apps show it. Jebroa does, for example
- 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏 ( @lemann@lemmy.one ) 5•10 months ago
Jebroa sounds like a really muscular type of mouse lol
Spoiler
A bit like the muscular mouse in demon slayer
- JokeDeity ( @JokeDeity@lemm.ee ) 3•10 months ago
I’m calling it Jebroa now (even if I’m actually using Voyager currently (until Thunder gets fixed)).
- Yoru ( @Yoru@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months ago
this reminds me how people were calling Gumball’s sister “Anna Yeast”
- 10_0 ( @10_0@lemmy.ml ) 4•10 months ago
Now 1 in 6 voters downvoted
Hot damn, ships sinking quick.
- Draedron ( @Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English8•10 months ago
It is funny. Might not be your humor but others find it funny
- dangblingus ( @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 37•10 months ago
Whatever scant humor this comic possessed, has been irretrievably destroyed by the pedants in the comments.
I was really not expecting so much, i sent it to the lady im dating she laughed so i posted it. Like most comments ive ever gotten on a meme were 6.
- nxdefiant ( @nxdefiant@startrek.website ) 19•10 months ago
cunning linguists they are not.
- erogenouswarzone ( @erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml ) English36•10 months ago
While we’re on the topic. Everybody needs to read a book about pleasuring their partners.
She comes first
Her guide to going down
I’m sure you can get more focused content for your particular situation if you looked for it, but don’t assume you know what You’re doing. Read and make the world a better place.
- mycatiskai ( @mycatiskai@lemmy.one ) 11•10 months ago
The Ultimate Guide to Cunnilingus, is also a good one.
She comes first, second, third, fourth and fifth if my neck and her heart can take the strain.
- TheFriendlyArtificer ( @TheFriendlyArtificer@beehaw.org ) 4•10 months ago
Damn my spelling!
I’ve been trying to satisfy my spouse by learning stealthy puns in Proto-Indo European. So now I’m a cunning linguist.
- TheFrirish ( @TheFrirish@jlai.lu ) 32•10 months ago
What the hell is wrong with people in this comment section? yeah if the genders were reversed blah blah blah be pragmatic and enjoy that pussy ffs.
- platypus ( @platypus@lemmy.ml ) 7•10 months ago
I’m available for objectification. Anyone?.. Anyone?
My blocklist has grown by leaps and bounds though, so there’s that.
- GreenMario ( @GreenMario@lemm.ee ) 24•10 months ago
Panel 3: titty eye contact, he accepts his fate lol
- ssboomman ( @ssboomman@lemm.ee ) 22•10 months ago
Is there a community for horny nsfw memes that isn’t actually porn? Asking for a friend of course.
- AceQuorthon ( @AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 16•10 months ago
Cringe
- SaltyIceteaMaker ( @SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml ) 14•10 months ago
I would be there for my lady…
If i had one!
- Mcballs1234 ( @Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml ) 4•10 months ago
I feel you brother
- Fat Tony ( @FatTony@lemm.ee ) 14•10 months ago
More importantly. Does that guy have a beard or is that just part of his hair?
- BadPoopSmell ( @BadPoopSmell@lemm.ee ) 5•10 months ago
I think I have to poop
- bennypr0fane ( @bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de ) 3•10 months ago
Where’s the original from? Asking for a friend