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  • halfempty ( halfempty@kbin.social ) 
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    I saw today that they have found that over 80% of the microplastics in the ocean are from automobile tires.

  • guyrocket ( guyrocket@kbin.social ) 
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    I’ve been reading the wikipedia article, not through all of it yet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microplastics

    Some highlights:
    Bottled water has much higher microplastics content than tap water.

    Coral can ingest microplastics

    Waste water treatment plants filter out most (but not all) microbeads into sludge. Some places use that sludge as fertilizer for farms.

    Microplastics are in stuff you would not guess. Paper coffee cups have a plastic liner. Clothes put off large amounts of microplastics when washed. Tires put off microplastics. Some exfoliants and other cosmetics contain microplastics as microbeads.

    • Holzkohlen ( Holzkohlen@feddit.de ) 
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      Haha I drink filtered tap water. Wanna bet that the filter will put more microplastics into my drinking water?

    • dubyakay ( dubyakay@lemmy.ca ) 
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      clothes

      I’m guessing this is referring to synthetic fibers like acryllic and polyester?

      • guyrocket ( guyrocket@kbin.social ) 
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        Correct.

      • Sadbutdru ( Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        AFAIK, those ‘fleece’ type materials are directly made from recycled PET (like water bottles).

        • SpiderShoeCult ( SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          So about those T-shirts and hoodies prodly saying they’re made from 100% recycled plastic…

    • nul42 ( nul42@lemmy.ca ) 
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      They just found it in rain so there is no escape.

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  • ciko22i3 ( ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    What are the long term effects of microplastics on human body?

    • Lexi Sneptaur ( Sneptaur@pawb.social ) 
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      As far as we know: almost nothing, but possibly anything. We don’t have an understanding of the effects. So far scientists have said that it could cause lung irritation if airborne, and may have some effect on hormones in the body.

      Read: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/microplastics-human-bodies-health-risks

    • Dudewitbow ( dudewitbow@lemmy.ml ) 
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      I think theres no hard evidence that its outright causing stuff, but there’s a lot of studies on some correlations. some involve phthalates messing with the male hormones and genitalia for offspring

      • RaincoatsGeorge ( RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip ) 
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        The problem is that it’s extremely difficult to tease out what the impact is when pretty much everyone is exposed to it and has it in their system. Are there connections between these chemicals and autism or cancer? We are just starting to see the preliminary data on the subject.

        For me it’s a matter of not being interested in waiting to find out 30 years down the road. My personal belief is that there is no such thing as food safe plastic and especially not when it’s heated or stored for long periods. I believe that there is and will continue to be a concerted effort to downplay any uncovered impact and to ensure till the last second that no steps are taken to regulate the billion dollar plastics/ manufacturing industry. The spice must flow just as the plastics must flow.

        Maybe that’s a bit too far in the conspiracy theory vein but name a more iconic duo than large corporations and covering up known flaws and risks for the sake of profit. If nothing else I do not think you lose anything by shifting to glass and certain metals for cooking and storing food. And steps have to be taken to minimize exposure to food packaging that is sprayed with pfas. Looking at you, literally all fast food packaging.

        Couple these revelations with what we know about hyper processed foods and it’s no wonder why so many Americans are dumb as Fuck and have so many health problems. We are being poisoned because of our insistence on convenience. We literally have great options for all of these things that are more sustainable and less toxic but we still can’t be inconvenienced by a paper wrapper on a hamburger that might end up a little wet on the ride home.

        Of course even with all these steps there’s only so much one can do when you’re literally inhaling plastic from the atmosphere. But it’s certainly a move in the right direction.

        • chocobo13z ( chocobo13z@pawb.social ) 
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          I still maintain that The Jungle should be required reading in high school in the US, but I think it will never happen

          • RaincoatsGeorge ( RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip ) 
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            The book is no doubt banned for causing CEOs to feel bad. Certainly can’t have that.

      • DrCatface ( DrCatface@lemmy.ml ) 
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        oh good so like the genophage but for humans

        • drcobaltjedi ( drcobaltjedi@programming.dev ) 
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          1/1000 pregnancy viability may wipe humanity out rather quickly. Though at this point thats probably a favor for the world.

        • Killing_Spark ( Killing_Spark@feddit.de ) 
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          But we did it to ourselves and not some weird alien! Hooray!

    • Holzkohlen ( Holzkohlen@feddit.de ) 
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      We can all find out together. Yay :)

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      • ciko22i3 ( ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Ah, so we are bringing back bloodletting

      • SpiderShoeCult ( SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Aye, good for the donor. Presumably not bad for the recipient either, since needing blood means they already lost some so worst case they just have constant levels of microplastics.

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    What if the perceived increase in numbers of androgenous and trans people has a chemical basis: chemicals from plastics interfering with the endocrine system.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9885170/

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      that’s far from what the study says. there is no research on the effects of plastic chemicals in human beings cited in the study, the vast majority of the data is in rats and mice. saying that its responsible for trans people requires some very large leaps of logic that aren’t supported by the data or the conclusion of the study.

      we have a great deal of anthropological evidence that other cultures conceive of sex and gender in wildly differing ways, both through history and in the modern era. gender identity is a complex social and cultural phenomenon, not some essential trait of the human body with a basis in endocrine function. maybe i’m just sensitive to this shit, but i can’t see somebody making a claim like this without just fundamentally misunderstanding what being trans is.

    • Tankton ( Tankton@lemm.ee ) 
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      Holy shit, how is this not a super high priority right now? Not because of trans people but the conclusion that microplastics interfere with hormones seems super fucked up

    • nevial ( nevial@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      This has “they turn the freaking frogs gay” energy

      • maxcorbetti ( maxcorbetti@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Funny enough, I think that all started with a study about hormone mimicking plastics.

    • interolivary ( interolivary@beehaw.org ) 
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      What if the perceived increase in numbers of androgenous and trans people has a chemical basis

      I’d be willing to wager it’s mostly due to it being safer to be “out” than it was just a few decades ago. Speaking as a 40-odd trans person, growing up in the 80’s meant a much higher chance of getting your ass kicked or worse by your “peers” if you stepped out of line when it came to gender expression. I’ve always been what I am now, it’s just that it’s been safe to actually do it “out loud”, at least for the past decade or so – that seems to be changing now that the right is radicalizing rapidly.

    • erogenouswarzone ( erogenouswarzone@lemmy.ml ) 
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      I was reading What to expect before you’re expecting and it says to stay away from any food that comes in any kind of plastic, esp if the plastic container needs to be heated/re-heated.

      It says when it gets into your blood stream your body thinks it’s estrogen.

      The most fucked up part is the EPA says the risk is very low. Probably because plastics are literally everywhere, and banning them at this point would cause an economic catastrophe. Which it def would.

      https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/bpa/faq-20058331

      This is an article about BPAs, but they are just the tip of the iceberg of the phtalates - chemicals used to make plastic more durable.

  • moosetwin ( moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    FUCK YEAH MORE DISTRESSING MEMES

    • Diabolo96 ( Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      It’s soo depressing that it’s not available in my country. Truly marvelous.

  • Rhaedas ( Rhaedas@kbin.social ) 
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    Humans had one purpose in the universe - to produce plastic. Mission accomplished.

    • Anti-Antidote ( anti_antidote@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Coal and petroleum baybee

    • Bloody Harry ( harry315@feddit.de ) 
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      Ah, the classic “humans are a joghurt culture to produce plastics for the overlords” hypothesis

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    What about Macroplastics!?

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      Where you stuff your LEGO is your business

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    Does that make them a cyborg?

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      Or recyclable trash

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      Yeah, they’ll be in wild animals and nonhuman fetuses too FFS

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          Yeah, I thought that’s what you were insinuating with the /s

  • PorkRollWobbly ( ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Well what do you expect us to do about it; completely change our way of living as we know it and have been choosing not to do so for the past 50 years?

    • isolatedscotch ( isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de ) Banned from community
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      not using plastic things one time and then throwing them away would be a good start…

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        Kinda sounds like you’re infringing on my rights, commie.

        /s

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