Hello, how are you guys?
As the title says, what search Ingine are you currently using? I used DuckDuckGo for years, and just recently switched to Brave.
Also, what do you think about the Brave Browser? I have been using FireFox since forever.
Thank you for reading.
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Brendan Eich was also spewing misinformation on Covid-19 during the pandemic https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html
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That’s so bad.
The important stuff for privacy is his stance on “accidentally” injecting Brave crypto referral links into user sessions and defending it as a way to make money because he got Mozilla to use Google for cash. Eich will sell your data when he decides it’s the best way for Eich to make money. I got into a Twitter slap fight with him around then about the incongruity of his desire to track and sell users. He doesn’t care. Brave also has VC funding from non-privacy actors which means it’s only a matter of time before everything is monetized. Brave’s layoffs come as Brave is working on monetizing everything its free users do.
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I am so curious about LibreWolf. I am gonna try it soon on my daily laptop (Linux of course 😂).
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I did a quick search, but I didn’t find any comparison between the two, so I just asked about it.
A lot of information came out, and I reckon this thread can help someone else down the line.
Thanks for the comment though. 🤙
I’m sorry, I shouldn’t be passive aggressive when people only want to learn. Hope you got a good answer from this thread.
I will use Firefox until the day it completely stops existing. You can pry it from my cold, dead hands. In regards to search engines, I’m using Startpage these days. I am actively looking around for something else that is free as in beer, useful, and reliable. I want to set and forget it, not constantly manage it because the instance I use is down or something.
Whoogle. Try one of the public instances. They can be rate limited but not so often.
Nice. I’ll have a look.
I didn’t like the rate limits on public instances and I am self hosting my own for me and my family. But maybe everything will be fine for you :)
presearch 👍
I’ll check that out thanks.
Tried Brave Search and felt like it was the closest to Google Search, in terms of a modernized-feel and good UI/UX, but after reading about the company and their questionable ethics, I switched to DDG instead. I’ll sacrifice my experience to avoid the more suspect company
Yes, mate. Same for me. DDG has been around for longer.
I’m using metager.org, because I won’t trust a closed-source service like DDG or profit-driven company like Brave to not censor their search results.
@Sterben tho this post might not be doing so but still dont get why people like to compare and pick only 1 search engine to use forever
Just use all of them. Try all. Everyone has unique needs
Each company has differences in indexing. Tho the duck is Bing based, it chose to block “russian propaganda”. For something as vast as the net, using 1 engine is like using only 1 eye to see the world
For a truly open perspective, use multiple! Only for convenience’s of daily searches, maybe pick one
Actually, You are right. I am gonna do like you said. Cheers.
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@eya Kind of. But all engines have their own unique features too
Google/Startpage has quick snippets
Brave has Toggles. Duckduckgo has bangs
Baidu/Yandex/Naver has immense localisation
Bing has OpenAI
Under competition, companies will innovate. Thats what this is. Forcing Google to innovate
For that we’ve to support them all. meta engines are good for what they are. But it cant have those extra features. Search isnt only about the results. Like how YouTube isnt *just* about the video
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@eya exactly but they werent always like that.
Google’s like Microsoft now. The very company they destroyed both in so many key markets. They were innovative.
Its the 97% search share and 70% Browser share thats the problem.
How Google, an AI company for over a decade, got so shock by newcomer OpenAI? Out of box thinking. What google itself used to be about
Thats what we need. Competition. Not anti trust trials or regulations. But prodcuts like chatgpt & Brave to make big companies innovate
I must give props to Brave Search for its AI summarizer, which suprisingly does a pretty good job at using high quality sources from its index to give you a brief synopsis of the query.
True, I honestly like that too.
DDG uses bing and they filter results based on their biased opinion. Just give me results let me care about the rest! Brave has a limited index, plus not a huge fan of their crypto scam. StartPage gets results from Google and seems better than the above two. But Google itself filters results so not great. tbh, to get unfiltered great results try Yandex, they do have good index and seem no or less filtering. It would be great if SearX would provide a wrapper around Yandex, but AFAIK Yandex blocks bots and non-human interactions and it is hard to add SearX support. Kagi - I don’t want an extra subscription.
For now, I think SearX/Whooper instances are good enough
I primarily user Startpage and DuckDuckGo. With all the controversies surrounding it and its founder, I can’t bring myself to trusting Brave.
I’d recommend a searxng instance.
I use all of them, at once, with searx.
Long time FF user, new Brave user. Turning off all the bloat in Brave makes it basically Chromium. Reason I’m switching is like FF, Brave has a self-hosted sync, however unlike Firefox, Brave has a tabbed user experience on Android tablets. If FF had that, I would not be switching.
I see where you are coming from, but at the end Firefox is just better from a privacy point of view (open source).
Brave is also open source.
I didn’t know that, but after reading all these comments, its CEO doesn’t look like pro privacy, am I wrong? Maybe, but for now I stick with FireFox.
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No clue, but Brave was billed as a privacy focused browser. It regularly rates about the same as Firefox (by reviewers) for privacy unless you use custom FF configs which can go further. I’ve built and compiled both from scratch (contributing), and don’t have concerns with either, though I prefer FF.
Used Brave for a bit during August and liked it (mainly their Discussions feature) but stopped using it since I always liked Startpage. I see a few mentions of Mojeek here, so I’ll give it a shot
Edit: Spelling correction (shot from shit kekw)
Edit II: Mojeek’s results are bad
We’re always on the lookout for feedback so if you use us again or are willing to send in the searches then it really helps us improve, the Eval Page is also worth mentioning for sending us these in a more interactive way. There’s a new testing algo up there currently.
I’m using presearch.com these days and I’m rather pleased with that
Thanks, I am gonna try it.
