• I’m not diabetic … but half my family is (and I have a big family) … and I’ve seen my share of out of control diabetics who have full blown attacks because they are so chaotic that they don’t bother monitoring themselves or their disease. I’m Indigenous Canadian from northern Ontario and I have a pretty dysfunctional family … I’ve seen young men in their 20s with out of control diabetes … people in their 30s with blood sugar so freaking high, you wonder why they are still alive … .people in their 40s with amputations due to diabetes … and people dying in their 50s from the disease. It’s terrible. On many occasions I’ve had to call ambulances and take family and friends to emerg because they were helplessly losing control of their mind and bodies due to diabetes … it isn’t pretty and absolutely terrifying.

          As to the GERD … that disease affects mostly my affluent friends in cities and towns in the south … I have four friends who are in their 50s who have severe GERD to the point where they can’t breathe at night because the reflux is affecting their esophagus and obstructing their airway … and the only way they can properly breathe at night is with a mask and oxygen.

          • I’ve been a type 1 diabetic for 12 years and a director at a kids camp for type 1 diabetics for 5 years. There is no such thing as a “diabetic attack”. There is high blood sugar (because diabetics either don’t make or don’t process insulin) and there is low blood sugar (because an insulin dependent diabetic took too much insulin). What you are trying to describe is a diabetic seizure which 99% of the time is an accidental overdose of insulin (low blood sugar).

            Now if you’re trying to talk about complications from uncontrolled diabetes from a lifetime of not taking care of it yes that is terrible, but that’s the minority of diabetics and you have to go to pretty extreme lengths of not taking care of it (literally years/decades) to get to that point, so let’s not act like the issue is the diabetes itself.

            And even if we ignore all that what the fuck does that have to do with eating meat? Most diabetics prefer a high protein diet because it’s CARBS that raise blood sugar. If you’re argument is meat = fat = overweight then 2 things, overweight doesn’t cause diabetes (it’s a factor for type 2 only), and 2: the issue still isn’t the diabetes, it’s the complete lack of caring for a medical issue.

    • I’ve discovered TVP recently. Very cheap and dense source of protein. My partner likes to joke that I’m eating dog food, and I’m starting to think that she might be right considering that dog food keeps coming up when I search for TVP.

  • I can see that, especially in the USA. Can’t have those giant burgers, steaks and ribs made from tofu or soy can you?

    All those cowboys would be out of a job, and I bet the NRA are having none of it!

  • I find it interesting how most of those “studies” take a very shallow approach with main premise: how to perrle vegetarian/vegan lifestyle. I have no problem with folks eating whatever the heck they like, but stop peddling me your preferences based on pseudo-science. I’ve been eating “clean” for over a decade now amd I can say with certainty that vegetarian/vegan diet will near damn kill me at best it’ll cripple me: sensitive to gluten, sugar and nuts, baloon from carbs. Not dealing great with soy etc. Any in-store “vegan” choices nutrutionally inferior to non-vegan as it stands (I do not say they are inheritently so but that the current fact). Industry is busy using adversarial politics pushing more addictive and harmful stuff onto our collective plates and we say nothing.

    There’s not such thing as “universal dietary profile”. I.e. we need our choices across entire spectrum. Some of us can’t tolerate certain foods, and that’s not the reason to vilify or victimize.

  • It seems to be an EU-based study. The design part of the paper doesn’t say which nationalities were studied, although maybe they mention it elsewhere in the document. I’d be interested in this because it’s very much a cultural thing. There are part of the world where vegetarian food is the norm for both men and women.