So far I really like it, anyone else using it? I’m really considering setting up the discord bridge and just using revolt
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It’s not decentralized and e2ee is not implemented.
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Matrix only partially has e2ee and its e2ee is time based and breaks under high latency
Sometimes a public utility doesn’t need to be decentralized to function effectively
It helps, but also the lack of e2ee is a pretty hard sell…
Then Mastodon are not for you either. Nothing is stored encrypted there.
Mastodon is not a real time chat
Nope, it’s not. But Revolt and Mastodon share the same gimmic: no encryption. Why (as far as I know)? You can install these 2 on your own server, making you own your data and also handling the data. E2EE will not be important in that case (according to me). However, encryption (not E2EE) are important in any service.
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Most important to me: Which of them is easier to self-host?
I’ve been running a Mumble server for my friends for over a decade now and I’d like… something more without having to get too technical. Mumble is literally just a single apt-get and you’re basically done, so that’s about the level of technical expertise that I bring to the table. I’ve tentatively looked into other solutions over the years but I always feel my attention drifting when the setup-tutorial covers multiple pages and starts with manually configuring some database or certificate authority or whatever. Sorry, I didn’t mean for this to get too ranty.
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I settled on XMPP for general chat. Very easy to set up, doesn’t eat much resources. I did think about trying Matrix, but I am afraid it would eat up too much resources, especially disk space.
Why not Element/Matrix?
How is it different from discord?
- Doesn’t track you like discord does to remain “free”
- You audit the code for security and privacy issues
- You can self-host or fork the code for yourself if you ever need to build a backup because some idiot decided to purchase the original revolt project and decided to screw with it
- It has an open source license so the software can never be privatized, it’s essentially a public utility; for everyone by everyone
Our Story:
The Revolt project originally started back in 2019 by a group of three students from the United Kingdom and the Czech Republic, looking for an alternative to the already emerging, closed-source chat platforms. Our main focus for the project was to create an open-source, completely compromise-free platform that offered all of the same features and competed against other chat apps
- Revolt is made with collaborative effort, and if you like coding it makes it so if you can to try and code stuff to add custom functionality or plugins or whatever else. Like a public utility you can add to it and develop it communally, though in this case it would be a public utility serving a public with a population of just you. But because of the GPL license Revolt uses, it makes it so that you need to share your changes. Whatever form the source code takes, it remains a public utility until perpetuity.
Remember: Revolt =\ Revolut
Revolt was okay when I briefly used it, however I don’t like the developers
Are you maybe confusing it with? https://www.revolut.com/en-US/
Never heard of it
What’s up with them?
They are uninformed politicaly and have banned people for saying there Christian. (So I’ve been told)
It also is a centralized service
banned people for saying there Christian.
Huh, that’s some shitty behavior if true.
It also is a decentralized service
Did you mean to say the opposite? It’s not like Matrix, servers can’t communicate with each other, they’re all standalone
Sounds nice but we all know the majority won’t make the switch from Discord so it’s sadly but most probably a stillbirth.
The only stillbirth here is discord.
Huh? Discord is very much alive and popular.
You’re right, that was a crap insult. Discord is just such garbage. Like its so sad to see discord become this naughty gamer queer safe space that… Takes all of this data, doesn’t sell it, just gives it to shareholders that have bought in. Its disgusting.
Sad but true.
Nah I think I prefer Matrix. The Revolt servers have that same unproductive samesy flair as discord.
Femboy server uwu cutesy safe (but slightly horny) space. Trans programmer server yay!!It’s all junk. Matrix has less, but the servers I’m in are trying to do something new. They’re trying to fight the patterns and habits and create something more mindful, safe, and engaging.
Sounds like these are the only servers you’ve joined
Hmm? I just scrolled through 100 of the top Revolt servers.
I just counted them, assuming you mean the first 100 servers featured in the discover tab. I counted only 6 like what you were talking about, 3 that use it while talking about inclusivity, 5 about anime / japanese games (you should know what I mean), and 1 that associates it with Linux so I don’t know if it’s joking or not.
I’ve heard they like to ban people for disagreeing with them or being christian. So no, I’ll just stay away.
Also it seems pretty centralized so there is no reason they couldn’t start do something questionable
Really? That sounds fucked up but I don’t trust hearsay so easily.
Wait WHAT
Does this have any proof?
No but there are multiple posts about it so I am inclined to believe them
Could you send the other ones?
I tried self hosting my own using their docker compose file. The text chat works just fine and is lovely but the voice part was totally broken for me. To be fair it explicitly says in the settings page they’re rewriting the entire voice subsystem so I’ll try again in the future
How can I search for Revolt communities?
there probably is a list on the revolt discord 😵💫
Revolut is a different thing
What communities are there on Revolt? Anything big? Like GrapheneOS, Linux Mint, Signal, Monero?
I know that Matrix has their communities.
