Spiner himself explained,
One of the ideas that John Logan and I had about what the next film would have been was a Justice League of Star Trek. Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together, from Khan to Shinzon, and Picard is the only person who could stop them and he actually has to go through time and pluck out the people he needs to help him. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock, and go even further back and get Scott Bakula’s character, Archer.
I can’t imagine it would have been good, but boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.
This sounds terrible! Thanks for sharing
- BrooklynMan ( @BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml ) English14•2 years ago
“It’s revolting!”
“More?”
“Please!”
God, this pitch makes so little sense on so many levels. Star Trek has never been about the villains, so having a batman-style villain team-up makes no sense. Seven samurai in space with time travel is a reasonable pitch, but why would you need to build a team that involves a captain, a captain, a science officer, and a captain?
reads like a kid’s pitch; “wouldn’t it be cool if…” - which maybe appeals to a broader audience
unfortunately the media about our no-money infinite diversity in infinite forms utopia is made for profit
Same reason we got a whole season pulling the old TNG crew back together, I guess
“I can’t imagine it would have been good, but boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.” — This is the perfect reaction and I cannot improve on it in any way.
boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.
I have the exact opposite opinion lol
Same! I’ve always considered time travel to be a “plot cheat code” because it allows writers to do whatever they want. This works out ok sometimes but other times it just makes for bizarre stories that defy belief. This would definitely be the latter kind!
I enjoy ST largely because it’s believable (in a broad strokes ignore the details kind of way) so far-fetched stories don’t do it for me as much. Time travel is firmly in “never gonna happen” territory.
Really though, I just would have wanted to see Archer on the big screen, regardless of quality.
Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together
thanks, i hate it
Would Abraham Lincoln and Surak be on team Starfleet, like in TOS’ “The Savage Curtain” (s3e22)? Would everyone enter a fight suit that would join together into a giant fighting robot that has a shiny Starfleet insignia on it? Justice League of Starfleet. I just can’t.
Star Trek: Voltron does sound kind of dope.
Maybe instead we have an army of Datas vs an army of Nomads from TOS and they have a big robot fight like in the last Avengers movie.
Or really go off in a bizarre direction and time travel back to a long time ago in a galaxy far far away and team up with R2D2 and C3PO to help fight a team up of Darth Vader and the Borg.
I could go on…
Picard pulls Archer through time and Archer turns to the camera and goes, “Oh boy”
Waited four seasons for them to do this throwaway gag on #Enterprise but nope, too silly… but invalidating four seasons of Enterprise by revealing that the whole show was a holodeck program run by Riker… That’s a-ok
I don’t think the whole show was a holodeck program? It actually happened and Riker simply ran a holodeck program based on those events. Still a pretty dumb way to end the show, but I don’t think it invalidates the previous 4 seasons.
Waited four seasons for them to do this throwaway gag on #Enterprise
And they had the perfect episode to do it in too.
. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock
This reads more like a treatment for Star Trek Generations. as if they realized how stupid that movie is, and wanted to fix it
I love that movie and thought it was a good torch passing. But going any further than they did would be silly.
The Generations we should have had.
Not even kidding the premise is goofy but with a visionary director and sincere enough attempt, this could have been amazing.
The people in charge of TNG by that point were creatively bankrupt. It would have been a fiasco.
Also, the idea just doesn’t fit Star Trek. It isn’t a comic book franchise, where fan-pleasing callbacks and crossovers are baked into the formula. In Star Trek media, callbacks and crossovers have tended to be some of the worst stories.
So as everyone else has said … yuck!
But then I quickly remembered “… All good things”. Time travel, big CGI thing in the sky, reuniting with old characters (Tasha, O’Brien) … and it works very well, especially as a send off.
I’m thinking that there’s a kernel in there as a farewell to TNG era trek. Maybe not something where Picard becomes a literal Time Lord, but more where a drastic event has forced time-bending onto everyone at the epi-center of the event and any attempt of take advantage of it also entails some cost and the only way to fix the “breaking of time” is to do something incredibly starfleet.
There’s no evil per se just things breaking and people taking advantage of it. And Borg 🤷 .
Taking the time travel from All Good Things and going a little too nuts with it.
Justice league of Star Trek crew ultimate team up….
Where is this movie and how do I pay to see it :/ yes it would likely be terrible but seeing Kirk vs Janeway dynamic or spock vs Kira debates arguments etc
And those are the first two that come to mind
Damn I read the ideas for Star Trek: The Beginning. Besides the stupid name it sounds like an awesome idea to see the first Earth - Romulan war and have something bridge the gap between ENT and TOS