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I don’t know if this is 100% strictly privacy related but I think it does fall in the sphere of protecting one’s right to express oneself privately.
"Government officials have drawn up deeply controversial proposals to broaden the definition of extremism to include anyone who “undermines” the country’s institutions and its values, according to documents seen by the Observer.
The new definition, prepared by civil servants working for cabinet minister Michael Gove, is fiercely opposed by a cohort of officials who fear legitimate groups and individuals will be branded extremists.
The proposals have provoked a furious response from civil rights groups with some warning it risks “criminalising dissent”, and would significantly suppress freedom of expression."
- Cyborganism ( @cyborganism@lemmy.ca ) 77•11 months ago
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a fucking manual.
- privacybro ( @privacybro@lemmy.ninja ) English0•11 months ago
Lol fr. It’s like they watched all the movies and books about dystopia and thought, “okay, this looks good, let’s do this”
Even the wording and grammar sounds like they are doing a 1984 parody
- Krauerking ( @Krauerking@lemy.lol ) 1•11 months ago
Honestly a lot of things today seem like funhouse mirrors of scifi dystopias. There is something to be asked of chicken or the egg with our similarities. Did the writers just think about how we would eventually end up and just got slightly wrong with the details or did someone with terrible social skills and a fucked up hyper focused head think it was a good idea and aimed to make it reality.
It happens all the time with items from Star Trek. Literally engineers wanting to make the gadgets they saw and even Meta pulls it’s name from a dystopia novel that Zuck thinks is neat instead of horrifying.
So do we put forth ideas only to normalize them and make them true? Do thoughts become reality whether good or bad? Or do people have the ability to extrapolate where we are heading through guess work and random chance with enough time and effort?
Because I’m horrified if twilight becomes real… Oh God is it already real?? Has anyone been to Utah lately?!
- dotslashme ( @dotslashme@infosec.pub ) English45•11 months ago
The day after the 5th of November. Nothing bad ever happens when you suppress the freedom of speech and the right to protest.
- far_university1990 ( @far_university1990@feddit.de ) 12•11 months ago
Remember, remember! The fifth of November, The Gunpowder treason and plot; I know of no reason Why the Gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot! Guy Fawkes and his companions Did the scheme contrive, To blow the King and Parliament All up alive. Threescore barrels, laid below, To prove old England's overthrow. But, by God's providence, him they catch, With a dark lantern, lighting a match! A stick and a stake For King James's sake! If you won't give me one, I'll take two, The better for me, And the worse for you. A rope, a rope, to hang the Pope, A penn'orth of cheese to choke him, A pint of beer to wash it down, And a jolly good fire to burn him. Holloa, boys! holloa, boys! make the bells ring! Holloa, boys! holloa boys! God save the King! Hip, hip, hooor-r-r-ray!
- NotAPenguin ( @NotAPenguin@kbin.social ) 40•11 months ago
Climate protests are probably gonna be illegal in many places soon… :(
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English2•11 months ago
Honestly I think climate protests are the least of your concern. Before you know it we will need to be careful not to commit though crime as then the thought police will find us
- Semi-Hemi-Demigod ( @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ) 38•11 months ago
broaden the definition of extremism to include anyone who “undermines” the country’s institutions and its values
Guess I’m an extremist 🤷♂️
- sadreality ( @sadreality@kbin.social ) 5•11 months ago
Proper nomenclature is “domestic terrorist”
Funny how mouth breather right loved patriot act until recently …
Now they woke up but it is too late!
- The Doctor ( @drwho@beehaw.org ) English2•11 months ago
They think they’ll be the ones enforcing the act, so they’re not that afraid.
- SokathHisEyesOpen ( @Anticorp@lemmy.ml ) English4•11 months ago
The reality is much stupider. It has the word patriot in it, so they love it.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English3•11 months ago
Who gets to define what the country’s values are? Who defines which activities undermine them and its institutions? You could plausibly argue that the present Conservative government is working hard to undermine the country’s values and institutions. You could argue that introducing this very bill is an attempt to undermine the country’s values and institutions.
- sadreality ( @sadreality@kbin.social ) 4•11 months ago
Person/group in charge is always right!
- Facebones ( @Facebones@reddthat.com ) 27•11 months ago
“You’re no longer allowed to be upset at your government and if you are you’ll be met with violence”
people use violence
“They just love violence nobody said they were upset!”
- SokathHisEyesOpen ( @Anticorp@lemmy.ml ) English27•11 months ago
- spudwart ( @spudwart@spudwart.com ) English19•11 months ago
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English2•11 months ago
Finally, its about time. We need to centralize authority as democracy never does anything good
Edit: this is a joke just to be clear
- rekabis ( @rekabis@lemmy.ca ) 13•11 months ago
Wow. This is two shakes short of full-blown Fascism.
- ExtremeDullard ( @ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ) 8•11 months ago
Whoever thought 1984 would become a documentary - and V for Vendetta a possible solution.
- ivanafterall ( @ivanafterall@kbin.social ) 6•11 months ago
I mean, George Orwell wasn’t exactly optimistic about the future outlook.
‘If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – for ever.’
- BobVersionFour ( @BobVersionFour@kbin.social ) 2•11 months ago
Everyone that seen the UK go ?
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English1•11 months ago
Its kind of ironic that its happening in the UK of all places
- DoucheBagMcSwag ( @DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 6•11 months ago
Sounds CCP as fuck to me
- SokathHisEyesOpen ( @Anticorp@lemmy.ml ) English2•11 months ago
You down with CCP (Yeah you know me)
Who’s down with CCP (Every last homie)
You down with CCP (Yeah you know me)
Who’s down with CCP (All the homies)
- Roundcat ( @Roundcat@lemmy.ca ) 4•11 months ago
Welp, I recommend getting it out of your system while you can
- ThenThreeMore ( @andthenthreemore@startrek.website ) English4•11 months ago
I want off Mr Gove’s wild ride.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Government officials have drawn up deeply controversial proposals to broaden the definition of extremism to include anyone who “undermines” the country’s institutions and its values, according to documents seen by the Observer.
The new definition, prepared by civil servants working for cabinet minister Michael Gove, is fiercely opposed by a cohort of officials who fear legitimate groups and individuals will be branded extremists.
Last week the home secretary, Suella Braverman, described pro-Palestinian demonstrations in London as “hate marches”, prompting dismay from many participants who consider themselves peace campaigners.
Martin Bright, editor-at-large, Index on Censorship, added: “This is an unwarranted attack on freedom of expression and would potentially criminalise every student radical and revolutionary dissident.
The government’s 2011 Prevent strategy defined extremism as the “active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and the mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs”.
Under the proposed definition in the documents, extremism would be the promotion of any ideology which aims to “overturn or undermine the UK’s democracy, its institutions and values; or threaten the rights of individuals or create a permissive environment for radicalisation, hate crime and terrorism”.
The original article contains 948 words, the summary contains 193 words. Saved 80%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English3•11 months ago
Finally, we need to stop the spread of dangerous ideas
- SirEDCaLot ( @SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today ) 2•11 months ago
I liked the video documentary on this