cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/8083028
And no IPad version to
To be fair, Signal, Threema and Discord use Electron, and therefore are just crappy bullshit on Wayland.
Using a dedicated FF instance uses less RAM, CPU and disk space, and gives you more control over the application/website.Discord has a web version, even if it doesn’t support some features, so I use it in FF. WhatsApp has a web version, so I use it in FF.
Signal does not. So it’s barely usable on my Nvidia desktop.
We do not need ““native”” Applications, made with a mix of a web version and a D tier browser engine, if we could just use the already installed, better and perfectly working browser.- Discords Electron was outdated and vulnerable for years, FF would be patched in days or hours in case of a zero day.
- Electron uses much more resources than FF. Because every company thinks they need a custom version of electron, every app brings its own bloaty electron environment, despite there being a system one.
- Electron/Chromium is extremely buggy on Wayland + Nvidia, to the point I cannot use Spotify, Discord or Steam correctly.
They want you having less control, that’s the whole point
Discord on Xorg is a mess too. It’s not even the electron part, the app itself is really bad.
Not only it’s inefficient, but (at least in Arch) it doesn’t auto update on big versions. And instead of just warning you, it refuses to start until you manually install the new update. And god forbid if the package mantainers need a day or two to update the package, because until then you can’t use it.
The funniest thing is, there’s a file in the app’s directory called “build_info.json” which contains the version number, and with a simple edit you can make it think it’s updated, and it suddenly works without problem.
I really don’t know what they’re updating, but I have a version from 2021 running on my phone (it’s old and the new app is really slow), and it still works fine. Even after the account handle change and several other additions to the app.
Oh, and for the Arch users: there’s a discord version on the AUR called “discord-canary-electron-bin” that uses system wide electron, so it should be updated faster than discord’s own bundled electron. I don’t know if there’s a non canary version of it, tho.
It’s more about WhatsApp ignoring Linux as a app platform (and the web app doesn’t have calls or screen share like the windows client)
Can we have electron, but based on gecko and unable to ship its own gecko?
Check tauri out. It’s not exactly that but it uses built in web renderer in os
using a dedicated FF [sic] instance
If you don’t like having multiple windows open, you can keep them in dedicated container tabs on you main Fx (or favored Fx fork). I have a couple pinned like this in Librewolf now.
Meta consistently proves itself incompetent
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So, how do you get on telegram without a phone number ?
I think you can use the web version
I think the “desktop app” is also just the web version. So yeah.
A lot of apps are doing that these days. I don’t really like it.
They don’t want you to have as much control as a browser, a browser that sandboxes your private data and limit how much they can annoy you
Also they only have to develop one version and don’t need to worry about hardware and OS differences. But then the app version is never specialised, or else the browser version gets bloated up with a bunch of unnecessary features.
Explicitly browser breaking web app
i think its kinda like discord, where the desktop app is just the web app, except it has more stuff for no reason(“no reason” meaning they can collect more info about ur pc)
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In a day where electron is the main way one makes such apps, no, it is not.
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I mean, you would be correct.
Fuck monopolies
Obligatory don’t use facebook products.
It’s Linux - you are supposed to write your own apps/drivers/kernel etc
DMCA takedown from Meta incoming
