However i’ve been thinking and i feel like an asshole for making them switch.

You should definitely not feel like an asshole for getting them on a safer app. You moved them off a predatory app. That’s good. I convinced my mom to get off Whatsapp because Meta kept trying to scam her into using the AI bullshit.

With Signal, it’s just messages. No ads, nothing trying to trick you into doing something against your benefit. It’s just messaging. That’s all she cares about.

doesn’t exactly scream human input.

You’re right. Code generators, formatters, static analyzers, vendoring exist btw.

Not human input != LLM

Are there any actual software engineers in this thread. 😅

They do have an LLM usage policy, if anyone is interested: https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer/blob/main/.github/LLM_USAGE_POLICY.md

The tl;dr is: you can use an LLM for private research, but you cannot use an LLM to write anything (except translations).

This line is kinda sus though:

This policy applies to every person who does not have write access to this repository.

… So… is this Hampus carving out an exception for himself? <x-files.mp3>

Overall, I’m a huge Fluxer fan. I think they’re doing the right things 90% of the time. I’ve never seen them enthusiastically embrace AI, but they haven’t been vocally anti-AI either. The LLM policy does basically seem like a ban though?

IDK. I suppose the large amounts of code churn may be a sign of AI? That’s definitely not conclusive though. Any software engineer will tell you running a code generator (not LLM, we have to regenerate our protobufs every time we change our API) or a code formatter or static analyzer (updates a bunch of files) or vendoring your deps (shout out to Go devs) will also inflate your line count.

I also checked out a few random files and they don’t look like the slop I’m forced to generate at work. I glanced at like 5 files. I guess Hampus could be tuning Claude to hide the AI slop better? IDK… this is all starting to feel like a conspiracy theory…

Stoat is not currently interested in federation though: https://developers.stoat.chat/faq/

As of right now, Stoat does not feature any federation and it is not in our feature roadmap.

I feel like the vibes are off … I don’t have an obvious answer as to why

What a lousy reason not to break free from Discord.

Fluxer provides Open Source freedom. It’s full AGPLv3, no community edition bullshit: https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer/blob/main/LICENSE

Like, Real Open Source ™️ freedom because they don’t require a CLA, like a lot of fake Open Source projects: https://www.reddit.com/r/FluxerApp/comments/1r8724q/heads_up_fluxer_has_a_big_red_flag_it_requires/

They promised self-hosting… and it’s HERE (it’s on the frontpage!): https://docs.fluxer.app/operator/get-started/

Yes, they optionally ask for money, which is GOOD. Hosting fluxer.app costs money. Infrastructure costs money. Hiring more devs costs money. Food costs money. Rent costs money. If the devs can’t pay their bills, then they’ll have to get some other job, which is BAD for the project.

Have you guys used Stoat?? It’s slow as hell. Last time I checked, they purposely disabled some of the calling features because they couldn’t afford the bandwidth on their public instances. Getting money is GOOD!

I guess some of the Matrix folks are a little miffted that Fluxer is eating their lunch, but dudes and dudettes, Matrix has a LOT of work to do on UI/UX to get people to use it. I convinced my programmer friends to switch to Matrix. We used Element. It sucked ass. Sure the encryption and tech is cool, but at the end of the day, if I can’t receive my friend’s messages because of some encryption roadblock, then it’s not useful. After a few days, everyone got fed up with Matrix and went back to Discord.

Fluxer has a familiar UI that people already know and like. It looks pretty, which matters. It’s true Open Source. They provide self-hosting. They’re working on federation (unlike Stoat). Mobile apps are just coming out. They’re getting funding so they can continue to focus on the project. It’s a real viable chance to take back some power from Big Tech that your friends would actually move to.

P.D. If you can actually convince your friends to switch to Matrix, then great. I managed to convince my small group of friends to try out Fluxer and we’re still on Fluxer, so I guess we moved. Let’s just get off of Discord!

Yep.

Heck yeah! I’ve been using them for about a year now. I’m happily going to pay for another year.

TIL! Thanks for sharing!

Surprisingly good video from JetBrains…

Glad I deleted my account a few days ago.

Awww, yeah!!! Who’s gonna upgrade first and let us know if anything breaks??

Hm. Looks cool! But… what’s your usecase for it? Tiny Linux computer sounds cool, but I’m not totally sure what I would do with it. Maybe a music player?

of course we won’t accept vibecoded slop but we’re not against people getting help from LlM

Hm. I wonder what that means. Every AI project says they won’t accept vibecoded slop… and yet…

I had to redo was my passkeys

phew Glad I don’t use passkeys.

The program has been written with the assistance of AI.

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Risk of Rain 2! Still haven’t beat it…

Thinkpads: So many damn models I’m a bit lost. I know some people love them though.

Good news! I’ve narrowed it down for you: get the Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 7! It’s got a 10/10 repairability score on iFixit: https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T14_Gen_7

It’s what I’m rockin right now. Running Fedora Silverblue, btw. It’s great. Happy to answer any questions about it.

Is Framework still sponsoring this guy? (Yes, gifting hardware counts as sponsoring.)

Ah, then I guess not.