• I’m sorry but “Trump will shake things up and get us to do something” is an absurd take and doesn’t give us the right to unleash what we know will happen to marginalized groups in this country. Especially when bringing him on isn’t going to stop what is going on in Israel and Palestine. If anything, it will make things worse.

    Unless you think Trump is going to help innocents in Palestine, frankly, the argument doesn’t hold any water. And if you do believe that, well… I’m not really sure what to say.

    • Oh, it’s not something I am hoping for, just the potential of a silver lining.

      I don’t think trump will help anyone.

      What I do see is so many people who are worried about people’s rights, and then continue supporting someone who doesn’t support an innocent persons right to live.

      It makes it really hard for me to feel for someone who is worried about not being able to dress or be called by the pronoun that the feel matches their gender, none of which is throwing trans/ace/ other minority under the bus.

      I use it as an example to point out the hypocrisy.

      I am sure it is horrible to people who have to deal with that, but being killed is irreversible.

      I know that trans people are more likely to commit suicide and all that, just using this as a parallel.

      If we are this worried about the potential harms created by a trump presidency, shouldn’t we hold Biden to a higher standard?

      I’m sure this will rub people the wrong way so please feel free to ask for clarification if you actually want to have a discussion about the topic.

      • Just because I voted for Biden does not mean I don’t care about an innocent person’s - or any person’s for that matter - right to live. That is a cruel accusation to levy at someone.

        You’re acting like we all have a concrete say in every issue of domestic and foreign policy. The reality is we all have a very small piece of the puzzle that allows us to move the needle in small ways. It’s glacial and frustrating and kind of the point, for better or for worse. The problem with your comment is you are equating voting against Trump, i.e. voting for the Democrats, with not caring about innocent people dying abroad. I think I don’t need to explain to you why that’s not really a fair take, anymore than I can say you hate the planet and want it to burn for ever getting on an airplane or in a car.