• Dislodge3233 ( Dislodge3233@feddit.de ) English
    22·
    3 years ago

    Are there any neutral sources? Or at least more complete accountings? I only find Leif’s account and some transphobic accounts.

    The only “facts” I could find are that Leif had an AR-15 and maced 2-4 people (depending on the account). The transphobic one says children were maced.

    I’m just legitimately interested in what happened.

    • seahorse [Ohio] ( seahorse@midwest.social ) English
      31·
      3 years ago

      I know a few people IRL that were first person witnesses to what happened. From what they say, Leif was escorting families at the event when a guy in full crusader armor hit him with a megaphone, and Leif defended himself and those families with mace. Now, I’m a bit fuzzy on the other people involved, but there was supposedly some parent with his 12 year old kid who had a pepper ball gun pointed at Leif and a knife of some kind who also were involved. And yes, the KID had a pepper ball gun.

      Edit: the guy in crusader armor is known around the Cleveland, Ohio area as the Alt Knight who pretty much protests anything even remotely progressive. Pic below.

      Here is a (not that great pic) I snagged of him at a drag story hour event I was at yesterday. Looks like his mom bought him a new helmet lmao.

      • frog 🐸 ( frog@beehaw.org ) English
        22·
        3 years ago

        If these accounts are true, then Leif’s actions sound reasonable to me. Macing someone who is threatening you with a weapon is justifiable in my opinion, even if the wielder of the weapon is a minor - the real blame lies with the parent who gave a weapon to a 12 year old.

          • Five ( Five@slrpnk.net ) OPEnglish
            18·
            3 years ago

            Someone linked the video in this post but it has since been taken down.

            From my memory I have no idea where the ‘children maced’ accusations are coming from. A male fascist protected behind a line of police brandished a weapon at antifascists nonviolently protesting, and got a face full of mace in response. It was accurately targeted, and even the police with their backs to the fascists who the stream sprayed past were unaffected. There was a fascist woman who brought her children to protest alongside people sieg heil’ing who harassed the police until they arrested Leif while lying about the context of the action.

            • Dislodge3233 ( Dislodge3233@feddit.de ) English
              17·
              3 years ago

              What a time to be alive. Nazis wearing chainmail and bringing children to protest drag events. If I didn’t follow the news, I’m not sure I would be able to tell this wasn’t a LARP event.