For facial recognition experts and privacy advocates, the East Bay detective’s request, while dystopian, was also entirely predictable. It emphasizes the ways that, without oversight, law enforcement is able to mix and match technologies in unintended ways, using untested algorithms to single out suspects based on unknowable criteria.
- Snot Flickerman ( @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English81•8 months ago
Cops only like technology when they can abuse it to avoid having to do real investigative police work.
They don’t care to understand the technology in any deep manner, and as we’ve seen with body cams, when they retain full control over the technology, it’s basically a farce to believe it could be used to control their behavior.
I mean, on top of that, a lot of “forensic science” isn’t science at all and is arguably a joke.
Cops like using the veneer of science and technology to act like they’re doing “serious jobs” but in reality they’re just a bunch of thugs trying to dominate and control.
In other words, this is just the beginning, don’t expect them to stop doing stuff like this, and further, expect them to start producing “research” that “justifies” these “investigation” methods and see them added to the pile of bullshit that is “fOrEnSiC sCiEnCE.”
- ToxicWaste ( @ToxicWaste@lemm.ee ) 9•8 months ago
TBH: Tech companies are not much different from how you described cops.
They don’t usually bother to learn the tech they are using properly and take all the shortcuts possible. You see this by the current spout of AI startups. Sure, LLMs work pretty good. But most other applications of AI is more like: “LOL, no idea how to solve the problem. I hooked it up to this blackbox, which i don’t understand, and trained it to give me the results i want.”
- davel [he/him] ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) English37•8 months ago
Next thing you know this will be the new expert witness pseudoscience.
- Snot Flickerman ( @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English12•8 months ago
Beat me to the punch, I was saying just as much, considering the history of forensic science in general. It won’t be long before they’re producing bogus “research” to justify it at a new investigative method.
- Catsrules ( @Catsrules@lemmy.ml ) 31•8 months ago
Didn’t facial recognition get some poor guy arrested and raped in prison and he was completely innocent of everything?
- shiveyarbles ( @shiveyarbles@beehaw.org ) 17•8 months ago
This stuff scares me.with all the sneaky ass companies hoarding DNA, it becomes too easy to frame someone. This kind of shit doesn’t help either.
- Samæ ( @samae@lemmy.menf.in ) English15•8 months ago
What’s scary here is the lack of training/understanding on the investigation side… This is just ignorance.
the family deserves to know that we tried everything
Like, have you tried praying? We don’t have any data, so it may be effective.
- SheeEttin ( @SheeEttin@programming.dev ) English5•8 months ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2802370/
Results were mixed.
- dan1101 ( @dan1101@lemm.ee ) 8•8 months ago
Boy that is just a garbage sandwich, garbage in garbage out with twice as much garbage.
- FluffyPotato ( @FluffyPotato@lemm.ee ) 8•8 months ago
Getting a psychic to give them a suspect through the shadow realm or something would probably be more accurate.
- MonkderZweite ( @MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ) 7•8 months ago
How is the sucess rate in the DNA -> words step alone? Higher than 50%?
- Zerush ( @Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 5•8 months ago
First Tests in Alabama?
- dutchkimble ( @dutchkimble@lemy.lol ) 1•8 months ago
All said and done, such reports developed by the cops, as compared to all reports developed by the cops, will be in the minority