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The carrier on Friday said it launched a media platform to serve travelers personalized advertisements on seat-back screens and in its app, among other platforms, as it seeks to leverage customer data.
- Roopappy ( @Roopappy@lemmy.ml ) English42•4 months ago
Oh good. Because if there’s a profile of my advertising preferences out there, it knows that when I am forced to view an ad, I look away from the screen, turn off the volume, sigh dramatically, and say “Fuck right in the ass.”
Personalize away.
You & me both, friend.
- Roopappy ( @Roopappy@lemmy.ml ) English25•4 months ago
I work for a company that does marketing, and they are seriously struggling right now because TV and Social media ads are getting more expensive, while at the same time becoming less effective.
Yes. This is true.
Because ads suck and people hate them. Whats the new way? Be good at what you do so people talk about your brand. Show up in searches when I’m looking for you. That’s it.
- haui ( @haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ) 11•4 months ago
Astonishing! Who would have thought that be the case? Actually doing the work instead of paying your way to success? That cant be correct! /s
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) English1•4 months ago
Honestly I wouldn’t have thought that this would happen anytime
- delirious_owl ( @delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 32•4 months ago
This is why you bring tape and a few pieces of paper in your carry-on
- GasMaskedLunatic ( @GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 25•4 months ago
We need augmented reality glasses with uBlock Origin now more them ever. Fuck United Airlines and the ad-riddled plane they flew in on.
- windtorn ( @windtorn@beehaw.org ) 1•4 months ago
You mean a piece of cardboard and duct tape
- eveninghere ( @eveninghere@beehaw.org ) 1•4 months ago
XReal glasses shut everything off and mirrors your phone already.
- qwestjest78 ( @qwestjest78@lemmy.ca ) 24•4 months ago
A couple years ago I paid what I felt was quite a bit of money for good seats on a plane. Then they started playing ads on the screen in front of me during take off. There was no way to turn off the screen and it literally felt like this screen was being thrust my face that I had no co trol over. Airline is the worst way to travel and they are only going to get more predatory.
- neuracnu ( @neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English12•4 months ago
Post-it notes. One pack is enough for like a third of the plane.
- Turbo ( @Turbo@lemmy.ml ) 2•4 months ago
I flew Icelandic air recently and they had A 4 minute long ad playing with no way to skip or mute that had to play before the entertainment system was available. It played a soon as you turned it on!
I had to unplug and look away for 4+ minutes
- refalo ( @refalo@programming.dev ) 1•4 months ago
I highly doubt you actually couldn’t turn it off if it was during flight. Also you could just not look at the screen, same as with any other ads you see in your daily life constantly.
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) English4•4 months ago
Also you could just not look at the screen
You mean the screen that’s directly in front of you, very close to you?
- davel [he/him] ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) English19•4 months ago
- Ascend910 ( @Ascend910@lemmy.ml ) English15•4 months ago
WTF man, I pay for the tickets and now I have to watch ads???
- Elise ( @xilliah@beehaw.org ) 2•4 months ago
Afaik it’s a thin margin sector. I’ve even heard of pilots paying to fly during bad periods.
- d-RLY? ( @dRLY@lemmy.ml ) 13•4 months ago
ability to reach engaged customers
Not sure that being stuck to a spot in a tube you can’t just escape (and easily live) from is the same as “engaged”.
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 11•4 months ago
But how can they access a passenger’s digital profile?
- jol ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 22•4 months ago
Oh please. It’s 2024, and you’re still wondering how a company knows who you are? The plane knows who is sitting on which seat, unless you change seats, and the airline has, at least: you email, your credit card, name, address, gender, age, nacionality, origin and destination. From there, they can ask a number of data brokers for more information like purchase habits, health, wheather you have children, your field of work, etc etc. Even if it’s one’s of those flights without assigned seats, there are cameras in the cabin. It would be pretty easy to face ID who is sitting where.
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 9•4 months ago
That’s what I wanted to know. Well total surveillance is slowly becoming a thing. Having multiple digital identities and using privacy-respecting services makes more and more sense every day
- jol ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 10•4 months ago
The problem is that you can’t fly anonymous. They will always know exactly who you are. But yeah, you can at least try to limit the information on you, but still.
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 5•4 months ago
I believe you can use your “official identity” only for stuff that requires identification (like border crossing, business and flights) and create another one for general internet usage and stuff like that. It’s much harder in countries that require ID to buy a SIM card though
- jol ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 5•4 months ago
I think the whole of Europe requires ID for SIM cards these days.
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 2•4 months ago
It makes sense why they want to do it but it’s really sad. I think you still can use the majority of privacy-respecting internet if you host your own email (so you don’t need a phone number to register it) but it basically reverts the internet to the 90s because you need knowledge to set up a server and it doesn’t let you use almost all of the popular messenger apps, making usage of the “official identity” mandatory to contact most of the people and therefore lose privacy when the situation gets worse
- jol ( @jol@discuss.tchncs.de ) 3•4 months ago
I wouldn’t mind the ID if providers were regulated properly and couldn’t harvest user data, but naturally that’s not the case 😢 even governments expect to be able to request customer data.
- CyberMonkey404 ( @CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml ) 1•4 months ago
Slowly? It’s already here. Been here for some years even
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 1•4 months ago
Not really. Some stuff can still remain private and there are useful privacy-respecting services. I believe it can get much worse
- makingStuffForFun ( @makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml ) 19•4 months ago
Last time I had my phone plugged in to charge it, I noticed that it wasn’t on charge mode exclusively, but it was actually on File Share Mode.
Now I don’t know if the airplane was able to instigate that connection mode, or why my phone was on that mode, but it did concern me incredibly that they were able to browse the files on my phone, when I just wanted it to charge.
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 8•4 months ago
Well that is obvious. Btw many phones have file share mode as the default now. Make sure you change it. But how about other cases? I don’t really understand. Are digital profiles officially tied to the ID and plane tickets now?
- BurningRiver ( @BurningRiver@beehaw.org ) 1•4 months ago
Or do you have an UA credit card?
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 1•4 months ago
Oh so they just use the data from the credit card like age and gender? It’s still bad but not that much of a problem as if they had access to all Google, Apple, Meta and other kinds of analytics and behavior data. Though I heard some banks do buy that data so I wouldn’t be surprised if they gave it to the airline. Well I know the era of total surveillance is coming. The EU may fight it but the US doesn’t seem to have any desire to do so. That’s unfortunate but only a big amount of active people can change it. Also what is an UA card?
- delirious_owl ( @delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 10•4 months ago
They know your name. That’s usually enough.
- rmuk ( @rmuk@feddit.uk ) English12•4 months ago
And your email, identity document, photo, payment method… lots of fun data points to boil it down to a demographic of one person.
- windtorn ( @windtorn@beehaw.org ) 3•4 months ago
I would assume it’s mostly ads for tourist places or local attractions at your destination
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 5•4 months ago
But the article says the ads are personalized. I really suspect it goes deeper than just the destination
- FreudianCafe ( @FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml ) 7•4 months ago
Capitalism breeds inovation
- Fixbeat ( @Fixbeat@lemmy.ml ) 7•4 months ago
I can ignore ads on a motherfucking plane just like I can everywhere else. It’s just another insult to paying customers added to the pile.
We noticed you may not be fully appreciating the information provided by our valued partners. We’re increasing the volume and raising your seat to help you experience them better – your friends at United
All I can say…
Booooooo!
- nbailey ( @nbailey@lemmy.ca ) English6•4 months ago
When you fly on Air Canada there’s a unmutable ad for the Alberta oil sands right after the safety announcement before takeoff. It’s surreal enough, but it’ll be so much worse when they start doing this kind of shit too.
- solarvector ( @solarvector@lemmy.zip ) 6•4 months ago
Your next flight, a minimum of 22 minutes of uninterrupted flying time during every hour in the air!
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English6•4 months ago
And now I will never fly United again. Time to move on
- somerandomname ( @somerandomname@lemmy.ml ) 7•4 months ago
I bet soon more airlines will follow. Our cars are no different either. No much options left for traveling.
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English4•4 months ago
I will not travel then. I refuse to be violated.
- archchan ( @archchan@lemmy.ml ) 4•4 months ago
I admire your conviction. But in that case we also have to consider how your right to move about freely is being affected. If you feel like you need to choose not to travel when you want or need to travel, how will you reconcile? Do you weigh and choose the lesser evil? Seems like you just end up violated one way or another. I don’t like it, not any of this.
- GBU_28 ( @GBU_28@lemm.ee ) English2•4 months ago
I launch baseball cap pulled down on my eyes
Yeah. This. This is what will send me to live in a commune.
- Zerush ( @Zerush@lemmy.ml ) 1•4 months ago
Novadays they also use biometric to enter