- Chemical Wonka ( @chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ) English26•2 months ago
Never been a democracy
- Manmoth ( @Manmoth@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 months ago
#suddenyarvinposts
- livingcoder ( @livingcoder@programming.dev ) 14•2 months ago
I don’t know how to get everyone I know to really understand this. Every time I bring it up in conversation, the other person just puts their hands up and explains that they’re powerless to address it, so it’s not even worth talking about. I don’t know how to respond to the apathy.
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 5•2 months ago
Try recommending Marxist texts, or inserting them (tastefully) into conversation.
- WbrJr ( @WbrJr@lemmy.ml ) 4•2 months ago
To be honest i offen feel the same, just helpless and too insignificant to change it in my own. But thats the point, we are not allone! I just try to show them undenieble facts, the already very present effect of climate crisis or just statistics of how the money is distributed in our country. The thing I struggle most with them is their bad feith in people. For example many welfare programs or in the extreme the concept of unconditional income by the state gets always used to argue that people are lazy and it would not work because no one would get a job anymore, which i disagree with
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 2•2 months ago
Maybe focus on a smaller scale.
- J Lou ( @jlou@mastodon.social ) 2•2 months ago
Include, in your politics, actionable steps. The most important step is to create worker coops and supporting institutions, so you aren’t giving the fruits of your labor to capitalists with what you do everyday @memes
- MNByChoice ( @MNByChoice@midwest.social ) 9•2 months ago
Huh, some commenters raise a good question. What are the non-capitalist countries doing to fight climate change?
China is building out massive renewables and massive coal.
My list is short, please add to it.
- khaleer ( @khaleer@sopuli.xyz ) 5•2 months ago
China is a capitalism country as everyone else.
- OurToothbrush ( @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml ) 5•2 months ago
Run by communists with a majority public sector and control of private enterprise? Hmm. Doesn’t sound correct.
- averyminya ( @averyminya@beehaw.org ) 3•2 months ago
TFW Tencent isn’t considered capitalist
- OurToothbrush ( @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml ) 5•2 months ago
Tencent existing as a private enterprise is compatible with the statement you are responding to.
- khaleer ( @khaleer@sopuli.xyz ) 1•2 months ago
Lack of common sense could make life harder sometimes ;)
- OurToothbrush ( @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 months ago
“Common sense”, aka you don’t know shit about how to define capitalism or about the political economy of China and insist that your poorly developed ideas are self evident.
- khaleer ( @khaleer@sopuli.xyz ) 1•2 months ago
Told person who do not know the difference between authoritarian capitalistic dictatorship and commuism state. Go swallow your copium pills. EDIT: I just lurked into your account, this explains a LOT xD
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 months ago
You might want to read the article China Has Billionaires. The economic case for China being Socialist is not unfounded. Nobody believes China has reached full Socialization of the economy, but it is largely Socialized, and appears to be increasingly Socialized as compared to the Dengist period.
- OurToothbrush ( @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml ) 1•2 months ago
Told person who do not know the difference between authoritarian capitalistic dictatorship and commuism state.
Gonna throw out the word authoritarian because it is an empty signifier.
If China is a capitalist dictatorship why is the economy mostly publicly owned, with the percentage growing? Why does its government have a 95 percent approval rating according to a Harvard study, and why do innovations in participatory democracy emerge from China?
I just lurked into your account, this explains a LOT xD
Wow, what a vile little weirdo treating me being openly trans as some own.
- menas ( @menas@lemmy.wtf ) 4•2 months ago
We couldn’t have non capitalist state with imperialism However, if we consider countries without state, we shall consider EZLN and the Democnatic Confederation in Rojava. Both have very interesting approach of eco-socialism.
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 2•2 months ago
Like what?
- BallsandBayonets ( @BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world ) 1•2 months ago
What are the non-capitalist countries doing to fight climate change?
Hunting and gathering, mostly. When the superpowers are capitalists, everyone is capitalist. Anyone who thinks China isn’t capitalist hasn’t bought anything off Amazon in the last decade.
- OurToothbrush ( @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml ) 3•2 months ago
Buddy capitalism is a specific production system not when you do trade
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 1•2 months ago
Capitalism is basically when another private citizen or private company can take you on as a wage laborer.
If you can go get “a job” which is when you can put known work for known money consistently, and the one hiring you is someone other than the government, you’re in a capitalist place.
- OurToothbrush ( @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml ) 1•2 months ago
Capitalism requires state subservience to the market as well, which doesn’t exist in China.
- J Lou ( @jlou@mastodon.social ) 2•2 months ago
Huh, there are worker coops and 100% ESOPs as alternatives to capitalism that can exist within capitalism @memes
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) 1•2 months ago
Literally every corporation is an alternative to capitalism existing writhing capitalism.
A corporation is a centralized command economy built in accordance with the credo “from each according to his capacity; to each according to his need”.
Capitalism exists at the scale of an economy. It does not exist within companies, except in the black market for office supplies in the places that don’t supply enough.
- J Lou ( @jlou@mastodon.social ) 1•2 months ago
Capitalism is a system of property relations and labor relations. It is conceivable to not have those property relations and labor relations in a firm. However, a corporation doesn’t do that as the employer solely appropriates the entire positive and negative result of production i.e. the property rights to the produced outputs and liabilities for the used-up inputs. In a worker coop, the workers jointly appropriate the fruits of their labor. Capitalist property relations aren’t present @memes
- hatedbad ( @hatedbad@lemmy.sdf.org ) English6•2 months ago
20 years? more like 5
- WbrJr ( @WbrJr@lemmy.ml ) 4•2 months ago
Depends in how much you dont want to die
- TheFriar ( @TheFriar@lemm.ee ) 1•2 months ago
Right? That’s what I was coming to comment
- Vilian ( @Vilian@lemmy.ca ) 1•2 months ago
The third one is dumb, not everyone is USA
- Cowbee [he/him] ( @Cowbee@lemmy.ml ) 12•2 months ago
The third one is true regardless of country, as long as it is Capitalist.