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PhilipTheBucket ( PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat )  to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

College students used Meta’s smart glasses to dox people in real time

www.theverge.com

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College students used Meta’s smart glasses to dox people in real time

www.theverge.com

PhilipTheBucket ( PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat )  to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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Privacy will always be a major concern with smart glasses.
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  • utopiah ( utopiah@lemmy.ml ) 
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    What’s driving me nuts is that people will focus on the glasses.

    Yes, the glasses ARE a problem because Meta, despite being warned by experts like AccessNow to SHOW when a camera is recording, you know with a bright red LED as it’s been the case with others devices before, kept it “stealthy” because it’s… cool I guess?

    Anyway, the glasses themselves are but the tip of the iceberg. They are the end of the surveillance apparatus that people WILLINGLY decide to contribute to. What do I mean? Well that people who are “shocked” by this kind of demonstrations (because that’s what it is, not actual revelations) will be whining about it on Thread or X after sending a WhatsApp message to their friends and sending GMail to someone else on their Google, I mean Android, phone and testing the latest version of ChatGPT. Maybe the worst part in all this? They paid to get a Google Nest inside their home and an Amazon Ring video doorbell outside. They ARE part of the surveillance.

    Those people are FUELING surveillance capitalism by pouring their private data to large corporations earning money on their usage.

    Come on… be shocked yes, be horrified yes, but don’t pretend that you are not part of the problem. You ARE wearing those “glasses” in other form daily, you are paying for it with money and usage. Stop and buy actual products, software and hardware, from companies who do not make money with ads, directly or indirectly. Make sure the products you use do NOT rely on “the cloud” and siphon all your data elsewhere, for profit. Change today.

    • Telorand ( Telorand@reddthat.com ) 
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      Several states have anti-spying laws that require disclosure that you’re recording them. I expect we’ll see an uptick in lawsuits about this issue, which will force Meta to revise their device or will cause a chilling effect on their sales.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns] ( uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Can the doxxing tech be used to ID law enforcement officers? A lot of them are assholes and bullies knowing their IDs will [be] protected by state and corporate interests.

    And police in the US are more than eager to use facial recognition and ALPR services to bypass our fourth amendment protections.

    • Mac ( Mac@mander.xyz ) 
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      Take a photo of a cop, upload it to the website, and find out.
      Report back.

      • greenacres3233 ( greenacres3233@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        deleted by creator

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  • drspod ( drspod@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Pretty sure this was described exactly in Snow Crash (Neal Stephenson, 1992).

  • RobotToaster ( RobotToaster@mander.xyz ) 
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    The sad thing is, facial recognition glasses would be really useful to people like me with prosopagnosia (face blindness), but I would only want them if the processing is done locally on device.

    • poVoq ( poVoq@slrpnk.net ) 
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      It would be also really useful to have a database of oil company executives and other shitty people that aren’t easy to recognize but worth refusing service etc.

    • Infynis ( Infynis@midwest.social ) 
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      As with most bleeding edge technology, all the danger comes from capitalism, and not the technology itself.

      • Maeve ( Maeve@midwest.social ) 
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        Surveillance society is a bad idea, period.

  • Dessalines ( dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 
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    This tech could easily work with any type of camera too, that’s a lot harder to identify than glasses with a light that turns on when its recording. Hidden cameras on pins, necklaces, clothing, etc.

    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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      What a world we live in

      I think the biggest concern is how easy it is to do. Not everyone has a CIA surveillance pin.

    • zelnix ( zelnix@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Pretty sure China has this tech everywhere in their country

  • Sir_Kevin ( Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Correct me if I’m wrong but this isn’t doxing? It’s pulling already public info and not sharing it with the world.

    • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Doxing is usually gathering already public info, but I agree if it’s not shared it’s not doxing.

      • Yeather ( yeather@lemmy.ca ) 
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        I never understood doxxing laws. All the people do is compile publicly available data. How is it illegal in some places?

        • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
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          It’s because you’re gathering data to encourage others to use it for nefarious purposes. It’s not just innocently looking up their email or whatever.

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            If it is all publicly available, it should be legal to repackage and release the info. As long as there is no call to action.

            • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
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              I’m pretty sure intent is part of the laws that exist. If you’re just collating information, I don’t think there’s an issue. When you’re posting that information in a forum to identify the person and send people to harass them, that’s where you usually cross a line. It isn’t the gathering of information that’s important. It’s the intent to cause harm.

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    For its part, Meta cautions users against being glassholes in its privacy policy

    Lol

    • Nicht BurningTurtle ( nichtburningturtle@feddit.org ) 
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      Only they are allowed to do that!!

  • jlow (he/him) ( jlow@beehaw.org ) 
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    Aaahh, I want out of this dystopian timeline, I did not sign up for this!

    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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      The good news is that I have noticed a lot of people saying this. I think even the least tech savvy are starting to wake up.

  • BioDriver ( BioDriver@beehaw.org ) 
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    Huh. Who saw this coming besides literally everyone?

  • T (they/she) ( Templa@beehaw.org ) 
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    I really wanted these glasses but I don’t think people will be able to reverse engineer them anytime soon to take out the Meta part.

  • delirious_owl ( delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 
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    That’s a great school project

    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Leave it to college kids to abuse the system

      • delirious_owl ( delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 
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        They didn’t release the code, and they did this project to warn us. Thats not abuse.

  • delirious_owl ( delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 
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    I don’t think its a dox unless you prepare a dossier. Just learning someone’s PII isn’t doxing them

    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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      You are kind of wrong in two ways. First Doxxing is where you reveal someone’s information to the public without there consent. Usually this is done to get members of the public to harass or harm the victim in some way.

      The second part of where you are wrong is the use of the term PII. PII is does not include active surveillance. It is things like your birth date, SSN and records.

      • delirious_owl ( delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 
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        Your name is PII. Your address is a PII. This attack is getting PII from looking at someone.

        I know what doxing is.

      • MachineFab812 ( MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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        Also phone number and address, none of which is being exposed like so, save name and maybe birthdate.

  • That_Devil_Girl ( That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml ) 
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    This is why I don’t use my real name on the internet, nor do I post selfies.

  • beefbot ( beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Photo caption: a woman smiling like a maniac,performing for a social media photo. Screenshot of television series Black Mirror, from an episode about social media dystopia

  • delirious_owl ( delirious_owl@discuss.online ) 
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    Meta glass, not Google glass? What did I miss?

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