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geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml )  to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

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geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml )  to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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  • Dessalines ( dessalines@lemmy.ml ) 
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    • PMFL ( Pmfl@lemmy.pt ) 
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      And the girl in the back on the original post photo, looking like this below meme photo. LoL

  • some_guy ( some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    Time to plug one of my favorite podcasts: Stuff the British Stole

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    • Birbatron ( Birbatron@slrpnk.net ) 
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      As an Egyptian the sheer ignorance of this comment is absolutely stunning.

      It’s impressive

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        • Birbatron ( Birbatron@slrpnk.net ) 
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          I’m not appalled.

          I’m simply amused by the stupidity

    • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      The Muslims conquered land and replaced its government, they did not murder and replace their entire population. This is why countries like Somalia are filled with black people who are Muslims and not Arabs.

      Mohamed Salah has Egyptian ancestry. He is not a random Arab Muslim claiming that Egypt was Arab.

      Settler colonization and replacing everything with ‘superior white people’ is a rather modern European tradion

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        • Birbatron ( Birbatron@slrpnk.net ) 
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          There’s a difference between colonialism and conquest. Conquest was much much more common in the past than colonialism. Before modern European colonialism, the only people who had made colonial efforts had been the Greeks (with small city colonies in places like Libya, for example), and the Norse, with their colonization of Greenland and their attempt to colonize what is today Newfoundland. Otherwise, the rest was conquest. There’s a significant difference between the two.

        • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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          There are multiple forms of colonialism. The term settler colonialism’ is relatively new.

          Settler colonialism is a logic and structure of displacement by settlers, using colonial rule, over an environment for replacing it and its indigenous peoples with settlements and the society of the settlers.

          Practically every example you will find is Europeans getting on a boat and killing natives. The most famous example is Manifest Destiny also known as America.

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    In fairness it likely wouldn’t be preserved otherwise. So you’re welcome.

    • OutlierBlue ( OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Sure, I’m gonna steal your TV because I’ll take better care of it than you would.

      You’re welcome

    • Ioughttamow ( Ioughttamow@fedia.io ) 
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      White man’s burden

    • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      It was already thousands of years old. The British destroyed more artifacts than they “saved”.

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      except that not actually an other hand sorta thing at all, almost exclusively it was colonizers and their wars that destroyed so many of the artifacts that werent stolen, if they weren’t delivery destroyed by colonizers to erase history and beyond even that the colonizers carelessness, greed, and racism which they brought to archeology led to much more than just artifacts being destroyed. There are so many historical sites whose histories we will never know at all because these clown excavated them to take “relics” and took little if any records where their precious artifacts were found and how, and that is if sites were not destroyed in their entirety out of sheer idiocy in the search of something else like how troy was. 18th, 19th, and even some 20th century so called archeology is a history of the destruction of history.

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    Honestly the concept of property here is just silly. Who specifically do they belong to, why, what claim, and how could such a claim exist?

    I just don’t agree with the concept, this individual doesn’t have any right to ownership regardless of whether his specific family owned it at some point prior, but most likely a direct relative doesn’t even own it, just someone with his self same ‘race’ ( which race doesn’t really exist either tbh, not genetically anyway, but exists as a social construct ).

    I just despise this mentality. I don’t own anything collectively with anyone of my ‘race’, neither their achievements nor shames, and same for even direct relatives.

    There is not enough generic diversity in humans to even prop up the idea of race beyond being a cultural construct, it’s time to stop seeing our fellow humans as something other.

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      Property rights only exist when non-western countries want their stuff / land back. When the west stole them, then its finders keepers.

      /s

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      they belong in Egypt not in en***nd

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        (Why are we bleeping England?)

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          It’s too offensive.

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          cuz its a bad word.

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      what a bunch of nerds… this is mohamed salah, pro football player with liverpool fc and he is joking.

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    Isn’t the idea of museums that you can learn about other cultures without going there?

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      Except the British museum where you do have to go there to experience their culture of theivery

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    funny for an Egyptian man to say this, considering that it was made by black people not Arabs. If such things went by blood then and culture then South Sudan would have the strongest claim to it, its like saying that art by ancient indigenous americans belongs to an amerikkkan only difference is time.

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      If you look at any of the ancient statues they don’t look black, whatever the recent propaganda tries to push. It doesn’t make any sense to put everyone in those four racial boxes - an Ethiopian looks as distinct from a South African as a Spaniard and a Swede

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        a clear lack of historical knowledge. plenty of the statue do have black features, they stop having black features first in lower Egypt and then much latter in upper Egypt, because there was a migration from asia/arabia and europe into Africa the vast majority of what we think of as ancient Egypt was created by black skinned people from Africa whos culture was preserved when they migrated south into Ethiopia and Sudan and later south Sudan the group of people we understand as Arabs today didnt even exists at the time. And the fact that Africa is diverse has nothing to do with this.

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        Right, the later pharaos were often greek.

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          This is awfully inaccurate. One singular dynasty, after alexander, was fully greek. Greek pharaohs weren’t just a thing. There was one greek family that declared themselves Pharaohs after Alexander died.

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            Now that you mention it, wasn’t it about Kleopatra?

            Edit: well that dynasty lasted for 275 years, before they were incorporated into Rome: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemaic_dynasty

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              Yeah, 275 years of 3120. Still one dynasty, the way the comment was phrased made it seem like there would randomly be Greek Pharaohs in the middle of the Egyptian ones. I wanted to make it clear that they were a distinct thing of their own.

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    Didn’t know he owned them. Since he says my stolen stuff. Now Eygpts sure.

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