- Scrubbles ( @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ) English31•19 days ago
A big question I ask people is “Why do we feel less safe even though crime is at an all time low?” Not a lot of people have answers, and I think way too many people aren’t aware of that fact. It’s one of the safest times to walk through any downtown core, yet people feel the least safe they ever have.
- NewDark ( @NewDark@lemmings.world ) 31•19 days ago
The answer is the media.
- Kalkaline ( @Kalkaline@leminal.space ) 12•19 days ago
It’s not all of the media, it’s editorialized news, opinion pieces, debate format shows, etc.
- Ms. ArmoredThirteen ( @ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml ) 11•19 days ago
My ex spouse got an app that gave alerts every time there was anything going down in our neighborhood. They went from cautious to walk around at night to “omg we live in a crime riddled hellhole with people being murdered everywhere” and stopped going outside. People now have access to so much information, often explicitly designed to make you fearful, and we suck at statistics
- orca ( @orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts ) 16•19 days ago
Crime is down because there’s less cops to commit it lmao.
- AntiOutsideAktion ( @AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml ) English9•19 days ago
Are there numbers about police staffing being down I can look at?
Police staffing has been going down since black lives matter became a thing. They dont get the same unquestioned respect and love like they used too so no one wants to be a cop any more. This one doesn’t give years but it says 5% over the last couple years. The change is bigger in larger more liberal cities. Chicago is down 13% since 2018 , san francisco which inspired this meme is down 20% since 2017 and all the mayoral candidates are falling over themselves to say they’ll solve it even though crime is down.
- AntiOutsideAktion ( @AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml ) English6•19 days ago
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- EmperorHenry ( @EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ) 6•19 days ago
depends, which areas are they counting crime? Which areas are they counting police quitting?
Don’t take the word of a meme for something like this. Look into how those statistics were counted.
(edit: Spelling error)
This article goes over a bit of both if you trust npr more than some random socialist propagandist but The trends for both are nationwide. Police staffing has been going down since BLM became a thing and public respect and love for cops went down. This one doesn’t give years but it says 5% over the last couple years. The change is bigger in larger more liberal cities. Chicago is down 13% since 2018 , san francisco which inspired this meme is down 20% since 2017 while at the same time seeing a ~30% decrease in crime over the past year.
Crime is also down all over the country, home break ins have been steadily declining since 2018 when the police staffing “problem” started. Murders have also dropped 12% over the past year along with alot of other crimes
- SaltyIceteaMaker ( @SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml ) 4•19 days ago
well cant report crime if there is no one to report to no?
- Björn Tantau ( @bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ) 4•19 days ago
And when there are 0 cops, 0 crimes will be recorded. Brilliant!
- Scrubbles ( @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ) English27•19 days ago
I don’t think that’s what anyone suggests. However the opposite is what needs to be called out. Why do police departments consistently ask for more and more funding, usually looking for reasons to spend it (see urban assault vehicles, larger and more militarized forces) when crime is down already? If they’re doing fine with the budget they have, why do we need to give them even more money?
“Defund the police” doesn’t mean we have no police. It means they’re overfunded. Let’s see about defunding them and giving some of that money to other people, like mental health advocates or groups that help with homelessness - some of the main causes of crime. Wouldn’t that mean the police can focus on things they are trained for while also cutting crime down at it’s source? If someone is never desperate enough to mug someone in the first place, doesn’t that mean the crime was prevented?
- TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ ( @TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 15•19 days ago
Defund the police doesn’t mean abolish the police
Me:
- LallyLuckFarm ( @LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org ) 3•19 days ago
- eldavi ( @eldavi@lemmy.ml ) 3•19 days ago
veritassium did this fascinating af video mirroring a study on people’s political biases and how it influences reasoning: it seems like the more educated or intelligent you are, the more your biases interfere with your ability to analyze positions that are contrary to your own views and that interference is proportional to your level of education/intelligence and the people who don’t have either are able to reason mostly the same whether or not their biases where challenged.
- knatschus ( @knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de ) 4•19 days ago
I watched veritassium for a short while, but i can’t take them serious with all the click bait. Can you provide a link to the proper study instead?
- eldavi ( @eldavi@lemmy.ml ) 7•19 days ago
it’s in the description of the video: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2319992
- tigeruppercut ( @tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ) 3•19 days ago
But contrary to the prediction of SCT, such polarization did not abate among subjects highest in Numeracy; instead, it increased. This outcome supported ICT, which predicted that more Numerate subjects would use their quantitative-reasoning capacity selectively to conform their interpretation of the data to the result most consistent with their political outlooks.
I dunno if equating numeracy with intelligence is a fair read, but an interesting study nonetheless.
- eldavi ( @eldavi@lemmy.ml ) 3•19 days ago
that’s how he defines numeracy in the video but he used the word “smarter” on youtube. i didn’t think it fit either so i just went with “intelligence” because it means acquiring and using knowledge in a similar way to numeracy; but was still in keeping with the source & the youtube video.
- corsicanguppy ( @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) English3•19 days ago
What’s the percentage chance someone has misunderstood the difference between causation and correlation?
Not saying less cops = less crime, just debunking the classic thin blue line narrative of less cops = more crime
- dosuser123456 ( @dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•16 days ago
what fklag is that, it looks like usa but colors are off
It’s the thin blue line flag , you’ll see it all over the US by right wingers who think police are the only thing keeping us from murdering each other.