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 xia   ( @xia@lemmy.sdf.org )  to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

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 xia   ( @xia@lemmy.sdf.org )  to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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  •  ChaoticNeutralCzech   ( @ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ) 
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    They’re not winning over the blind again after they limited access to screen-reader-accessible apps.

    •  flashgnash   ( @flashgnash@lemm.ee ) 
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      On the flip side, training ai for image recognition has the potential for auto labelling images for the blind

      Could be either the website owners themselves generate them if a human written one isn’t provided, or a browser extension that auto labels any unlabelled images on the screen

      •  ChaoticNeutralCzech   ( @ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ) 
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        They’re probably going to make a deal with Google to improve Google Lens. Yes, it will eventually help the blind but Reddit’s shareholders will be getting even richer from people’s donated time.

  •  circuitfarmer   ( @circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    At this point, any request for information could potentially be used as training data. That includes things like captchas.

    I recommend everyone have an extremely literal interpretation of “labor”. Unless you have tremendous insight into where your data is going and how it is being used (and perhaps even then), then assume any ask is ultimately an ask for unpaid labor.

    Obviously you can’t avoid things like captchas, but you can avoid things like this.

    Edit: and it should go without saying, but anything you upload to socials is probably automatic training data at this point. The best approach is simply not to engage with corporate social networks.

    Though Lemmy is not corporately controlled, the information is publically accessible, so even this post is potential training data to be scraped. That is harder to avoid, lest we stop using the internet altogether, but at least avoiding the corpo routes is a good start.

    •  flashgnash   ( @flashgnash@lemm.ee ) 
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      Captchas have been for training ai for years that’s nothing new. Iirc the reason you do two is one to confirm you’re human, one for training data

    •  AndrasKrigare   ( @AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org ) 
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      Bear in mind, with this liberal interpretation, any time you access a website, that is also consuming someone’s labor and if you don’t have a subscription to it, it is unpaid.

  •  octopus_ink   ( @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I promise that I’m leaving this here in good humor, although it is also true.

    •  morrowind   ( @morrowind@lemmy.ml ) 
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      OP did actually use it correctly tbh, a rare case

  •  apotheotic (she/her)   ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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    I am missing a small amount of context - is reddit randomly prompting users to describe images in posts? Or is it prompting you to describe your own image at upload time?

    Context aside, I definitely think that providing image descriptions is something we should do in spite of the fact that its definitely going to be used to train AI. Choosing to not do so is throwing our blind peers under the bus to reduce the amount of training data for ai fractionally.

    •  Robust Mirror   ( @Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone ) 
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      I haven’t been there in a while but I remember there was a sub of volunteers that were around for years that went around just describing images, way before AI LLM were really a thing.

      I’m assuming this is something new being pushed by reddit itself, but as you said, it’s a good thing regardless.

      •  apotheotic (she/her)   ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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        As long as, even if reddit is using it to train LLM, they are actually still using the descriptions to add accessibility to those images, which I don’t take for granted

  •  mfat   ( @mfat@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Is this why we are solving motorcycle, stairs, fire hydrant, etc. captchas?

    •  NutWrench   ( @NutWrench@lemmy.ml ) 
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      So that ‘AI’ car driving software can have an image reference database that relies on people who download porn.

  •  davel [he/him]   ( @davel@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Helping self-driving cars and drones.

  •  perishthethought   ( @perishthethought@lemm.ee ) 
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    Context, please?

    •  Nightwatch Admin   ( @nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl ) 
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      AI steali…I mean harvesting, pardon learning

  •  ReCursing   ( @ReCursing@lemmings.world ) 
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    No, and it never has been

  •  N00b22   ( @N00b22@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Wait what? I only use Old Reddit and Infinity on mobile so idk what they are doing

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