Source in pic: https://homestead.social/@lily/113878607769958499
Secondary confirmation: https://bsky.app/profile/erinryanhey.bsky.social/post/3lggfjx55vk2w
Anecdotally, I’ve seen several more reports.
I’m disappointed that the majority of top level replies to this post is a bunch of people deciding to jump in and question its validity. Yeah, it may not be true. But it also could be true, because bigots feel empowered at the moment and may well act in the way described even if they’re not technically “meant” to.
So yes, express caution and don’t assume everything you read is true, but conversely don’t come in to a queer space, in the middle of an active movement against gender diverse folk, and fill the comment section with denials and second guessing, as if everything is fine and its business as usual, as if people are being unreasonable for being concerned
I’m disappointed that you’re so indifferent about the truth. Leaving this misinformation to spread does real damage to trans people, who might now become too afraid to change their gender marker. Even when, as many have pointed out, there was no change of policy and this is mostly handled at the state level.
No one knows the truth here. I don’t know whether it happened or not.
But what I do know is that a bunch of people who are not normally in this space suddenly joining in the conversation to tell trans people that they’re being unreasonable for worrying about stuff like this is not on. One or two comments, whatever, but when the majority of comments are non regulars telling trans people the world is ok, despite it clearly not being, it’s time to step in.
There are many reasons to be frightened. It just doesn’t help to add fictional stories (or at best secondhand anecdotes) to that. Resistance against oppression requires accurate information about what happens, not wild speculation about things that “could have happened”.
Telling everyone to stop changing their gender registration is wild and would warrant for more evidence than “I heard from a friend”. That’s terrible advice and you can’t just shrug that off by saying you don’t know the truth.
There are many reasons to be frightened. It just doesn’t help to add fictional stories (or at best secondhand anecdotes) to that.
This is what I mean. You are so sure it’s a lie, something that you don’t know for sure either, to the extent that you’re willing to actively encourage gender diverse people to throw caution to the wind and put their complete faith in a system that was actively working against their interests even before the new president was elected.
Caution is warranted. A bunch of non regular posters to this community seeing this post and deciding to tell trans people that it’s all ok, and that they should continue to trust the system, that their caution is unwarranted? If you don’t see how being part of that chorus is a problem, then I don’t know what to tell you…
The ACLU has said:
All applications for gender marker change are on hold while the State Department changes this policy.
Anyone who now submits an application for a change runs the risk of losing access to their passport and documents while their application is being processed.
There is necessarily a scarcity of info and a period of rumor verification. I find it likely state agents are ignoring the letter of the law to do whatever they want because that is as much a part of fascism as operating within the law.
Add onto that the fact that mainstream social media is entirely at the whim of bad guys and it may be hard to get the truth until suddenly Erin Reed or someone writes about it.
You need to get out of here if this is personally making you panic. We’re okay without your help.
Once codified into law, would the recent executive order not invalidate the legal identification of everyone who doesn’t have their sex assigned at birth listed?
A [State] department webpage that described how people could change their gender marker was taken offline, and Chase Strangio, an ACLU lawyer, said it’s unlikely that any new application to change the gender marker on a passport will be approved.
I appreciate the question, but this is actually quite different from what is claimed in the screenshot.
The state department will stop changing the gender registration on new passports to “X”, at least for now. This doesn’t cause anyone to lose their documents. It also doesn’t affect anyone changing their registration with the state or local government, which is much more important.
Not to sound insensitive, but this is just a social media post quoting another social media post without proof or the ability to verify anything.
Seconded. In these times, evidence is key to avoiding unnecessary panic. It is pretty easy to get with the technology we have in our pockets.
If you experience this, please collect whatever information you can to establish a pattern or keep a historical record.
Edit: I am not discounting this person’s experience. Evidence is important when you are trying to get people on board with your cause. Otherwise it might come off as fear mongering.
I can’t actually imagine what proof of this situation would look like.
If this was real it would have affected thousands of people and enough media outlets would have picked it up. This social media post isn’t even first hand experience, it’s what they allegedly heard from someone else.
I don’t think media coverage is a very reliable gauge of truth in a society where the media is controlled by oligarchs. On top of everything that that’s been going on, a journalist just got fired for calling Elon Musk a Nazi.
It’s also pretty common for marginalized people to relate their problems secondhand because victims don’t always want the public eye on them. Yes, victims should go to the authorities, but it’s often easier said than done even when the authorities aren’t well-known for dismissing victims and/or furthering their abuse.
e: To clarify, I don’t think it’s true that what the official said is policy; I think that person is probably lying. What I mean is that the incident itself is very plausible, and I have a policy of believing victims if there isn’t a good reason not to, especially where it may protect others.
I get your point and I certainly don’t trust some media to give me all the facts. But there are still plenty of outlets who would have published about this if it happened at any systemic level. That’s as close as you can get to proving a negative.
There are many other bigoted things that Trump did do. We should probably discuss that, instead of panickingly telling people to stop changing their registered gender. That’s terrible advice given the very limited evidence.
Personally, I would expect more than just a social media post. A second social media post repeating what they read in the first post shouldn’t count as evidence or confirmation.
Not necessarily. I too have my doubts and even hope that this isn’t real, but it is always possible that singular border officers, empowered by the new definitions, take matters into their own hand. One look in Russia’s direction over the past few years and their propaganda laws, it starts with sporadic individual arrests. I visit the US on a semi-regular basis, but I think I will wait for at least a few months to see what comes of this, because even sparse arrests from bad-apple border officers are still a threat to my freedoms.
Just going to leave this here for the denial club:
RUBIO ORDERS STATE DEPARTMENT TO STOP ISSUING ACCURATE PASSPORTS TO TRANS PEOPLE
Stop issuing “x” passports isn’t the same as confiscating existing documents, let alone for everyone who requests any change (as this post claims). Also this only applies to the federal government.
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As in, they reverted their name? Why?
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Dr. Friedrich Wilhelm Kritzinger: That is not - no, that is contrary to what the Chancellery has been told. I have directly been assured - I have - that - purge the Jews, yes, but to annihilate them - that we have undertaken to systematically annihilate all the Jews of Europe - that possibility has personally been denied, to me, by the Führer!
Reinhard Heydrich: And it will continue to be.
Conspiracy, 2000, based on the translations of the Wannsee Conference, 1942, Berlin
Good quote.
And in a similar fashion to what is happening here, when survivors managed to escape first Nuremberg laws Germany, then ghettos and eventually death camps across Europe and report to the outside world what was being done to them, they were categorically ignored, and dismissed as fantasists and fear mongers (those damn Jews, trying to guilt us in to letting them in to our country!) for a good few years, while the extermination only intensified.
People who will believe a fascist government, but not its victims, are telling on themselves, and are actively participating in our oppression.
Did the US ever issue passports with an
Xgender marker for its own citizens? I didn’t think they had, so what this reads like to me is that I, an Australian, would be detained at the border.It’s also a more extreme act than mere confiscation if it’s being done to American citizens. I’ll also note that the
Xgender marker is, in part, intended for use by intersex people. Alongside the recent EO erasing us from public life, from using any bathrooms.I don’t know, I guess the point I’m trying to make is please have solidarity for us intersex folks. Please talk about us, about how it may be affecting us.
The US did issue passports with an x gender marker. The first one was issued in 2021 after a lawsuit, and the option was on the official paperwork in 2022. Most would usually advise against doing so as many countries do not recognize the X gender, and would deny entry as a result. Be aware of where you want to travel and that those countries are accepting before you commit to the X marker.
That was before the newest administration. It remains to be seen how things will play out in future as many executive orders will be blocked in the courts. Executive orders are the lowest tier federal legislation, overruled by nearly everything else.
You know, when the special designations came out my generational trauma came up and all I can think of was choosing to get a Star of David and juden written on you.
I always thought this was a trap.
god that’s absolutely fucked, i thought you all might have some more time left before shit like this started popping up
sharing everywhere i can
does anyone know what happens if you got your name changed in time, but haven’t had time to update DL/birth certificate? it’s updated with social security and i have my new ss card. thx
Those are handled at the state level, so it’ll probably depend on whether you’re in a red state trying to roll out similar policies ASAP or not. If you’re in a blue state or there have been no announced changes I’d try to get it changed sooner rather than later.
