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John Oliver cited a 5000% rise in search queries related to leaving Meta and deleting accounts. Among the topics mentioned in the analysis, attention was drawn to early Facebook’s naivete with regard to moderation requirements, the constitutional framework, and a history of governmental interference.
Oliver debunks common right-wing “cry censorship” talking points, as well as the objective difficulty of moderation endeavors, and how direct threats by Trump may have influenced Zuckerberg’s turnaround.
Oliver went on to suggest Signal, Mastodon, Bluesky, and Pixelfed as alternatives that “do not seem as desperate to fall in line with Trump”. For those reluctant to completely ditch Meta, Oliver revealed a new site with step-by-step instructions to “make yourself less valuable to them”.
The guide was a collaboration with the EFF, and includes settings’ tweaks for Facebook and Meta, whose 98% of revenue comes from micro-targeting ads, the host previously cited, to increase privacy, and recommends Firefox, Privacy Badger, as “other measures” to take in order “to block advertisers and other third parties from tracking you”.
The segment culminated in a mock advert, in which the new Meta’s approach to moderation is coined as “Fuck it”, and hints to racism, internet scams, and calls to genocide running rampant on Meta’s platforms.
The clip reminds the origins of Facebook as a site to “rank college girls by hotness”, and its implication in genocide in Myanmar, which was more thoroughly discussed in an Oliver’s previous special on Facebook in 2018.
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I don’t want to get my hopes up but is this Facebook’s MySpace moment?
My personal MySpace moment for Facebook was 10 years ago. Best choice ever made.
MySpace was way smaller than Facebook, it wasn’t even available where I am for most of its (meaningful) existence (I never had a MySpace despite being the exact target age range).
Nobody left MySpace because of enshitification
Not immediately or probably for some years. Facebook’s main problem is the fact its got an aging population and no young people joining. That’s why Meta bought Instagram and is desperate to get their grubby paws on TikTok or force it to close down in the West.
I think internally, over the next decade, FB will start to die off organically as Meta put ever increasing focus on retention and young people.
Even better. It’s the fediverses Facebook moment.
Why don’t stories like this EVER mention Lemmy?
Well, I get that Lemmy is an alternative social media, but it’s not really an alternative to Facebook. Anonymous usernames, text-based posts, you can’t follow people, Fediverse is somewhat confusing… I’d recommend it as an alternative to Reddit, but probably not the website where boomers want to check up on their neighbors and friends
you can’t follow people
Challenge accepted
you can’t follow people
He said “Lemmy” but probably meant “Threadiverse”, and mbin does support both the Twitter-style following user model and the Reddit-style forum model.
To use fedia.io as an example:
I dunno about piefed, haven’t used it.
Because Lemmy is nowhere near as ready for primetime as other platforms.
I reckon Lemmy is actually pretty good. I wouldn’t know if the mobile apps are good, because I don’t use those - but for me the core functionality of Lemmy on my computer is smooth and functional. I don’t see any obvious low-hanging-fruit.
Lemmy is good for the size. It took a while for Lemmy to adjust to its current scale, with major instances having uptime issues.
If we keep the servers up, there is still issues with spam and moderation. We don’t have the tools that Reddit built and I expect further pushes towards defederation as the standard for users hasn’t been developed.
Boost on Android works well. It does for me at least.
Voyager ist amazing
Eh, Lemmy is way more mature as a platform than PixelFed is, and he mentioned that.
I think the explanation being in relation to what it’s intended to replace is more likely. He doesn’t care as much about getting people off Reddit as he cares about getting people off Zuck and Musk’s platforms.
Clean cut kids do not find Lemmy very palatable.
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Let’s hear your different perspectives
Agree. I am not an open socialist and my top 5 issues probably don’t align with the usual stuff I see at the top of Lemmy communities. Still, it is a worthwhile source for some tech/privacy info and some other niche content.
Not as many grassroots advocates. Even on the Reddit alternative sub the consensus isn’t lemmy somehow.
Not a very large userbase.
This is literally the answer lmao why are you getting downvoted.
Lemmy lacks a bit of polish
Yeah but lots of german.
Yes, those too
John Oliver’s show is doing amazing things, including the Drumpfinator addon.
What is that URL, though? I’m guessing I’m know it if I (happily) watch the episode?
it’s an inside joke of the show where he presents himself as a “”“secret”“” furry that loves rat erotica. The content of the link is legit though.
with the sometimes quite insider-y references, there absolutely is at least one furry on the writing team
Oh, absolutely! That’s maybe why the jokes feel so pure and not disrespectful.
good initiative but uh what’s up with that domain name?
His team over at Last Week Tonight pull lots of funny stunts like this and have made quite a few hilarious websites. I wouldn’t be surprised if this one is featured on the next episode!
Edit: Hey look, it was! https://www.youtube.com/embed/nf7XHR3EVHo
Remember “Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption”? You can’t get stuff like this in stores!
I think is some in-joke having to do with Facebook moderation. Or his typical goofassery with domain names. Can’t help you there.
It’s an in joke referencing some stuff he did in a previous season. I don’t think there’s any specific connection to Facebook.
Took a long time, but nice to see this topic getting mainstream attention.
John Oliver for president ✊
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Zuckerberg hung out with Trump at Mar a Lago and attended the inauguration, then got rid of Facebook and Instagram’s fact checking, relaxed their rules on posting hate speech and discrimination, ended Meta’s diversity initiatives, removed bathroom facilities at meta for transgender and nonbinary employees, made speeches in defence of Trump and expressed gratitude for finally being able to have “a productive partnership with the United States government”, while removing communications channels for employees and threatening them with being fired if they talked to media about any of this. He has gone full MAGA.
This article covers some of it: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/technology/mark-zuckerberg-meta-trump.html
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This is the first time zuck has gone full ass-kisser with curly hair and a gold chain, though
They’ve gone full mask off, which is why there’s the sudden backlash. The hate speech rules now include a section that explicitly says that it’s okay to call LGBTQ people mentally ill. They’re the only group with a specific carve-out in the rules saying that it’s okay to post hate speech about them.
my country they literally helped elect one
Huh? Source? What country?
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He only now was able to catch up with all the news with Meta moderation from a month ago. He is only a couple weeks back on air.
Meta declared hate speech is free speech. Lgbt folks and allies started leaving in droves
The site doesn’t suggest any alternatives though or am I not seeing that?
The alternatives were suggested briefly in the segment, not the site. Oliver pointed to the site those people who can’t ditch Meta right now.
I’ve been wanting to try pixelfed but I haven’t figured out what to do: start my own for friends or join an existing one.
I heard there were some issues with a dev or something so I haven’t signed up for the original instance yet
Try one of the existing instances. Pixelfed.social is probably a bad choice right now, as it’s getting overloaded with new members and so importing from Instagram has been curtailed. The others at https://pixelfed.org/servers should be fine. If you later choose to host your own instance you can always move the data from your old one.
I love the instance I’m on and it’s fairly quiet. Come on in!
I use https://metapixl.com as mine. Its active and reliable. Also, not having influencers polluting the timeline makes all of Pixelfed a really nice experience.
Are you able to stop your account from federating but subscribe to people who do federate? In other words, is there a way to create a private account
Honestly, I don’t know. I’d suggest reaching out an admin of one of the instances that has the community guidelines that jive best with you. Their contact info is usually on the instance’s home page. They would definitely know.
I just do gram.social. works good enough for me and my cannabis account.
I’ve also been intrigued, but it seems like a harder jump to make than mastodon or lemmy. Like with twitter or Reddit I’m mostly interacting with strangers anyway, but I don’t really want my instagram to be photos of people I don’t know.
Would you try to get your friends to make the switch with you?
Yeah, that’s why I’m considering hosting my own, unfederated instance
I’ve been using pixey.org for a year or so. No complaints
My Instagram is full of fitness content (and good looking people tbh). Nothing comes even remotely close on pixelfed. No offence to federated social media, but we all ain’t good looking :) (or suck at using filters…)
It’s still a very long way off from taking over Instagram.
Why not just recommend adblockers? No ads, no revenue, no matter how much tracking.
Selling user profiling data is also worth money, even if you’re not shown ads because of ad-blockers you bring value to the dataset by increasing it’s size with useful demographic data.
It looks like they got that list of tips from the EFF, who created Privacy Badger. So it’s not surprising they only recommended theirs. I agree though that they should include uBO in the list.
Correct me if wrong, but isn’t there a law in the us that says, all us companies have to give the government access to all data without disclosing this information? That would rule out any us based companies for privacy concerns as alternatives atm.
You should expect any data hosted on a server to be accessible by the given government…and thanks to NSA you should expect any data that travels through the US to be accessible by their government
Privacy in this case is around the selling to advertisers
The problem I see with this is that a Meta employee literally came out on Mastodon recently and revealed that non of these settings do anything and are false flags.
For the masses maybe, but Signal & Bluesky ain’t it for a Privacy forum
How is Signal not privacy-friendly? It’s the most private thing that can be called a “messenger app”.
The most private thing for messenger app are the messenger applications using the XMPP protocol.
Only if both parties use encrypted extensions.
It is entirely centralized in the US—& there is 100% chance the NSA is tapped in on the metadata they can get a hold of. You can’t self-host. They have been hostile toward alternate clients & are very adamant you use one of the duopoly of Google/Apple mobile OSs as your primary device (screw you if you want to run an alternative OS or no phone I guess). There is a hole in the history for the server that leaves room for conspiracy theories.
Signal is adequate for privacy-focused normies, but does not deserve the pedestal it is put on which is why many folks more serious about the ideals instead of focusing on making concessions are skeptical of Signal. This isn’t a hot take or new stance.
