From a lemmygrad post on fascism
The western left’s use of the term fascism, is borderline white-supremacist at this point. Fascism was a form of colonialism that died by the 1940s, and is only allowed to be demonized in public discourse, because it was a form of colonialism directed also against white europeans. It was defeated, and Germany / Italy / Japan reverted to the more stable form of government for colonialism (practiced by the US, UK, France, the Netherlands, Australia, etc): bourgeois parliamentarism.
British, european, and now US colonizers were doing the exact same thing, and killing far more people for hundreds of years in the global south, yet you don’t hear ppl scared of their countries potentially "adopting parliamentary democracy”. They haven’t changed, and their wealth is still propped up by surplus value theft from the super-exploitation of hundreds of millions of low-paid global south proletarians.
This is why you have new leftists terrified that the UK or US or europe “might turn fascist!!”, betraying that the atrocities propagated by those empires against the global south was and is completely acceptable.
Make no mistake about it: parliamentary / bourgeois democracy is not only a more stable form of government, it’s also far more effective at carrying out colonialism, and killing millions of innocent people.
USA 1941:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
The German Nazis loved the whole salute to the flag thingy.
Also Henry Ford - The International Jew
Also American Eugenics SocietyYes I know my enemies. They’re the teachers that taught me to fight me. Compromise. Conformity. Assimilation. Submission. Ignorance. Hypocrisy. Brutality. The Elite… all of which are American dreams…
All of which are American dreams…
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None of that is fascism. It’s just run of the mill liberalism.
Anyone downvoting this, should be able to explain why what the the US and European powers did to Africa, Asia, and the americas during the 1700-1900s, was any better or fundamentally different than what fascist formulations from 1920-1945 did. And those atrocities were all done using a far more stable form of government: bourgeois parliamentarism / liberal democracy.
People really need to read Losurdo’s - Liberalism, a counter-history. Liberals invented the slave trade, and the victorian holocausts. The only difference between them and the fascists, are that they’re far better at colonialism and genocide than the fascists were.
I still think the distinction matters, fascism is the empire turned inwards.
America exerting fascism on other populations is just textbook liberalism. The facade of democracy and relative peace at home is different than fascism. Fascism demands obedience of the local population and is a full merger of corporation and state. Laws don’t matter, only the head of states will matters.
They’re both bad, but I think it’s disingenuous to tell people who are about to live under fascism that the liberal government they just had was also fascism because they oppressed populations around the globe.
Basically the time for lectures was when we were living under fake “fascism” and the time for gun and survival training is now
Same difference, just one has a smile and bright colors.
when I think of fascism I first think of America, then Nazi Germany
Not that Nazi Germany wasn’t far worse but America is a right now thing, not an 80 years ago thing.
None of these are specifically fascism. Get better examples
I think the point you’re making is true, but the titular argument could still be useful rhetoric to the misguided patriot.
The title is sarcasm
No, this is Patrick
Feels like imperializem merits to be further down the line, if not the last panel.
But yes, good memetics in this meme, gg.
@Confidant6198 most incarcerated??? You mean excluding countries with numbers undisclosed or altered or killed like China or North Korea
I hate it when China and North Korea kill numbers. Like I’m just trying to count stuff here and you’re telling me that 9 is dead?
@HiddenLayer555 yes because 7 8 9 because a communist famine
Famines had been commonplace occurrences in feudal China and Russia, which the communist states brought an end to. And those final famines occurred under post-war conditions, and under disastrous crop seasons that affected neighboring states as well.
@davel pick up your history book. The famine under mao Zhedong was because of stupidity. He killed all birds that ate all crop eating insects. The famine under Stalin in Ukraine for example was just pure evil. They took the crops from Ukraine to export them not leaving enough to feed the population causing a massive starvation.
German
absolutely frothing at the mouth at the mention of communism
checks out
??? 100 GORILLION NO IPHONE !!!
@davel iphone is the most capitalist bullshit I’ve seen but I so do I hate communism
“America doesn’t have the most incarcerated if you baselessly assume other countries secretly have more!”
Ok
@dessalines you won’t find exact numbers for China. estimations of the ones killed of about 70 000 per year for organ harvesting. But hey it’s bad enough that USA is being compared to a country as evil as China.
Organ harvesting is not a real thing. You really need to stop passively accepting Cold War II atrocity propaganda. Falun Gong is a CIA-backed far-right religious cult and their organ harvesting narrative is bullshit.
And even if it were all true, the USA would still be far, far, far worse.
- List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
- The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
- The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
- Infographic: US military presence around the world The US controls about 750 bases in at least 80 countries worldwide and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined.
- Shock therapy (economics)
- Super-Imperialism
- Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
- The Shock Doctrine
- How to Hide an Empire
- The Jakarta Method
In Germany Jan Böhmermann did an expose on Falun Gong once, and it was hilarious. Highly recommend, it’s still on YouTube.
@davel I think reports like “the slaughter” “bloody harvest” from 2007 2016 and the 2021 UN tribunal and the fact that after the persecution in 1999 the organ transplant numbers suddenly shot up before China had a organ transplant system and have in hospital multiple floors for organ transplant with transplant waiting times of only a week (despite organ tourism especially from Korea) speaks for its self.
On international scene China is more subtle with debt trap diplomacy neocolonialism Africa
“Chinese debt trap diplomacy” is yet another Western Cold War II psyop. It’s pure projection of what the Global North has been doing to the Global South.
- The Atlantic: The Chinese ‘Debt Trap’ Is a Myth
- Learning from China: Theoretical bases of China’s “win-win” foreign policy concept
- Chatham House: Debunking the Myth of ‘Debt-trap Diplomacy’
- Johns Hopkins U.: Debt Relief with Chinese Characteristics