I mean I am AFAB and I do identify as a girl but also I don’t feel entirely binary. I guess I wasn’t assigned Nonbinary at birth but it still feels weird to say I’m trans when I’m AFAB and present and act like and call myself a girl. I don’t know, help me out here people.
If you want to be called trans as a non-binary person, that’s perfectly fine
I do, probably won’t lead with it but I will definitely use it and also proudly display the flag to both support my trans brothers and sisters and make them feel safer.
Trans means gender different from what was assign to you at birth.
Therefore if you wasn’t born assigned as non-binary, your trans. Of course as someone who’s non binary, I know that can be a lot of different things so maybe by default nonbinary is always trans?
Also gender expression and gender identity are two separate things. You can be a cis guy and be feminine looking and still not be trans. Remember, clothing and what you present doesn’t dictate what gender you are.
Trans means gender different from what was assign to you at birth.
The trans-prefix means ‘across’ , ‘on the other side of’. Personally I consider that to mean that transgender = on the opposite side of the spectrum from where you were assigned at birth. So male -> female or female -> male (usually). I wouldn’t automatically consider a non-binary person trans, because they effectively reject the spectrum altogether (so they can’t be ‘on the other side’ of it either).
To me that’s what makes most sense, but as stated elsewhere in this thread it really, really doesn’t matter. Pick whatever labels feel comfortable for your, or pick none at all if none seem to fit best.
That’s a great point. I honestly like the trans flag very much and I’m probably going to use it and wear it since it’s cute and will make other people feel comfortable but will probably use the label strategically to avoid confusion with others thinking I’m a different kind of trans than I actually am. It seems my fear of being seen as appropriating is probably overthought as well.
Non-binary generally falls under the trans umbrella but use whatever terms you want
✨You can choose who you wish to be and I personally feel that that’s all that matters✨
Labels/descriptors are helpful when communicating with others but don’t forget that sometimes they can be lacking and we shouldn’t feel restricted by them🤗
I’m genderfluid and am AMAB, and I present very masc but I do also consider myself trans because of the times that I do feel like a girl.
Hmm, that is a good point. Maybe this issue I’ve imagined isn’t an issue at all. Probably one of those things I overthink way too much when it’s not at all as complicated or problematic as I thought it was. I’ve thought people would think I’m transfem or appropriating transfems if I say I’m trans but that’s probably not as much an issue as I think it is.
Trans is an inclusive term. You are trans if you want to use that word to describe yourself.
Speaking purely for myself, I didn’t feel comfortable calling myself trans until I started HRT. Its a thought process a lot of trans people have, thinking they need to be trans enough to be called trans, me included. Its a misconception that needs dispelling.
When describing her design of the trans flag, Monica Helms said,
“The stripe in the middle is white, for those who are intersex, transitioning or consider themselves having a neutral or undefined gender.”
Just wanna echo everyone more crassly: it doesn’t fucking matter. Thinking of being trans/any label is just for you to feel comfortable with and maaaybe communicate your experience more succinctly to others. So if you feel it describes you, use it for yourself, if not, don’t. If anyone is giving you trouble for “appropriation”, fuck them (or maybe don’t), that’s their issue and not yours.
Everyone else is saying it, you get to choose and no one else.
I’m non-binary on feminizing hormones, so I feel like I’ve got quite a lot in common with trans women in particular. I’ve always half jokingly called myself a transfemby, I think it’s a fun term and places me exactly on the gender spectrum where I feel like I should be. Even if my expression day to day is fluid, it’s still accurate because I feel the fem things about me aren’t as permeable. (In the sense that an identity can be permeable, but it’s in theme with gender fluid heh)
Being able to choose the language to talk about your gender identity is the best, it’s a great chance for some self expression imo.
Also non-binary on feminizing hormones! Sometimes it feels like a tricky spot to exist in, but I can’t agree more that learning and experimenting with language has helped me settle into that fluidity!
Enby’s are trans
Thank you for posting, and thank you everyone for your comments.
I feel the same way on the otherside of the spectrum and this thread has bern comforting.
I mean, labels are all shorthand for others to understand your lived experience, yeah? Some people who are non-binary call themselves trans, some don’t, and both groups are equally valid. Some people who are non-binary live comfortably with the same gender presentation as what they got assigned at birth, and that’s just as valid. Ditto for binary people, trans or otherwise.
Who you are inside you is what’s important, the rest is just stuff to help others get an idea of it if/when you choose to share.
I think that if I said without any context that I’m trans people might think I’m transfem, or if they knew I was AFAB they might think I’m trying to appropriate transfem experiences. I like the trans flag and think it’s cute (I’ve even thought of getting thigh highs like these but I worry people will get the wrong idea and think I’m apropriating trans women).
You won’t be appropriating anything, friend! You are free to feel out your gender and identify as trans if that is what makes sense to you, From what you’ve described you’ve got gender stuff™ going on, so fly your flag!
Also, other trans and enby people who see those colors on you will feel safer in your presence and you’ll be sending a signal about trans stuff being okay in general, so even if you weren’t trans why would anyone object?
That’s very true, you make very good points. I often have this problem that I end up overthinking things and worry too much that people will get upset with me. Also that’s very true, you make a great point about other people seeing the colors and feeling safer whether I’m trans or not.
People might assume that sure, but you can also always add more context and clarify if you want. It’s always up to you what you want to share about yourself. There’s also a lot of overlap between transfem experiences and other groups, it’s not like one group has a monopoly on everything they experience. Plenty of cis women wear thigh highs, for example, and some cis men even.
The trans flag is cute! i like it a bunch too.
The white stripe on the flag represents non-binary people. And being trans is to identify with something (entirely or even partially) other than what you were assigned at birth. If you weren’t assigned non-binary at birth then the trans label is fitting if you feel comfortable using it 🫶
That makes sense, it still feels weird to say like if I said I was trans or trans-nonbinary people would think I’m transfem and maybe think I’m apropriating when they learn I’m AFAB.
like if I said I was trans or trans-nonbinary people would think I’m transfem
The word “transfem” exists for a reason. No one should be assuming anything about your AGAB based on your expressed identity.
Are you cis? No? Then you’re trans. No one is “more trans” or “less trans” than anyone else.
I’m technically bi, but I don’t lead with that because it’d probably give people the impression that my attraction is balanced between genders. Totally fair to not lead with “trans” if you don’t want to deal with that.
That makes sense probably should lead with saying I’m AFAB and Nonbinary, then say I’m trans so no one gets the wrong idea. People thinking I’m appropriating probably isn’t a real issue, it’s probably just something my autistic brain made up because I overthink things way too much and also am afraid of pissing people off.
probably should lead with saying I’m AFAB and Nonbinary, then say I’m trans so no one gets the wrong idea
Um, no? Not if that isn’t how you feel. Don’t let other people tell you who you are or how to describe yourself.
“Transness” is the experience of not aligning with the gender that society placed on you at birth. If you experienced that, if you resonate with the stories of other trans people, if you feel at home in trans spaces - then you’re trans.
And if other people don’t get that, fuck em. It isn’t their call to make. It’s not your job to make other people respect you - it’s your right as a human being to get the same respect everyone else gets. It isn’t something you have to earn.
If you like telling people your AGAB, then please do, but if anyone makes you feel like you have to disclose your AGAB then they’re just transphobic. YOU ARE NOT YOUR AGAB. And I’ll write that on my knuckles and deliver that message for you any day of the week.
