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Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Web Browser telemetry - 2025 edition

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Web Browser telemetry - 2025 edition

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Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml )  to Privacy@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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Testing various web browsers to see what network connection they open by default on the initial start.
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  • chirospasm ( chirospasm@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Thank you for posting this! I assumed some FF-based browsers, while claiming to remove telemetry, in fact still phoned home to a degree. This is good know!

    Also, I was surprised by a few others on the list, like Mullvad, Kagi, and DuckDuckGo, being so straightforward – not that making fewer connections implies better privacy, as even a single connection can transmit any kind of data, but moreso that there some browsers that are designed to operate with less complexity.

    Really surprised by Zen, which is a FF derivative claiming to be all about a ‘beautiful’ and ‘simple’ web browsing experience, having a ton of connections.

    • newaccountwhodis ( newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml ) 
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      beautiful and simple don’t necessarily mean privacy oriented. It’s marketing language

  • forked_bytes ( forked_bytes@lemm.ee ) 
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    That line chart should be a bar chart.

    • Sips' ( Sunny@slrpnk.net ) 
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    • SchwertImStein ( SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      🤮

  • ReversalHatchery ( ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 
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    I can only hope floorp and zen devs are ashamed of what have they done. all of those third party domains like discord, x and those mundane ones are totally unnecessary

  • Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml ) OP
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    Not so important how much telemetries, but where these go. A complex feature rich browser can have a lot of tech telemetries, but this is only bad if these go to sites not related to the functionality and third parties, eg. to Facebook, Amazon and others.

  • kylian0087 ( kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    I think a big improvement to these test would be to show what actually gets send. You can do this with a certificate and a proxy.

  • mystic-macaroni ( wuphysics87@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Does “more telemetries” mean “worse”? What if the least telemetry (greater than zero) had the Omega Mother of All Telemetries which crams everything the others do times 47 + 3 into one?

    • Zerush ( Zerush@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      No, worse is not the amount, but where they are sent these telemetrias. A browser with a lot of features may have also a lot of tech telemetries related to these features to ensure a smooth operation. This is not the same as sending browserdata to third parties, like Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc. which has nothing to do with the browserfeatures but with logging and selling userdata. Even worse if you use above an search engine which logs your activity, like Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc.

  • LiamBox ( LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Yeah something is broken here…

    • pinguin ( pinguin@fault.su ) 
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      I thought it was just me until I saw this

  • SuperZorro ( SuperZorro@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    What is the point of these stats, they could be uploading your entire drive with 1 connection. And some of the connections are there because they bundle ublock, why should that count?

    • ReversalHatchery ( ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 
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      It’s informative in terms of which parties are basically notified that you started using it. why the fuck does zen load discord, x, bunnyfonts, and whatnot?

  • TFO Winder ( tfowinder@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I thought firefox and ungoogled chromium did same job in terms of privacy.

    I see I was wrong.

    • ReversalHatchery ( ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 
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      well, for one firefox is not a stripped down browser but one with conveniences like push notifications, safebrowsing and other things, while ungoogled chromium is a specialized browser built for those who don’t need all that. don’t forget also that chrome can’t be patched up on many fronts, ublock’s dev gorhill has written about them here

      that being said, mozilla could make a first time setup page with an option for convenience and another with a menu for selecting which services do you want. but I wouldn’t hold my breath

  • Tundra ( Tundra@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I was really enjoying Zen browser aswell

    • Mike ( Pirata@lemm.ee ) 
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      Sorry to say, but both Zen and Floorp were obvious honeypots from the beginning.

      Unsolicited advice, but don’t adopt the latest browser/search engine/OS that promise privacy and/or security, and you’ll avoid a lot of disappointment. Most fall apart at the seams within a year or less.

      If the one browser/SE/OS you currently use works, stick with it until more research on the newer stuff comes out. Then you can reassess.

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        Ungoogled chromium looks good to me. I wish this author tested mobile browsers as well

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      https://exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/

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