Inspired by another post.
Quick sources.
According to Google, a single search requires about 0.0003 kWh of energy.
https://www.rwdigital.ca/blog/how-much-energy-do-google-search-and-chatgpt-use/
Each ChatGPT query consumes an estimated 2.9 Wh of electricity…
Edit: I’m an idiot for not even considering conversions. I simply pasted the numbers from the sources. Apologies.
0.0003 kWh is 0.3 Wh, and 2.9 Wh is 0.0029 kWh.
I think the regular search is effectively one-tenth a chatgpt prompt.
…according to a simple calculator, and a lot of commenters who’ve now accidentally made this funnier.
I’m not an electrician.
Okay, after some more rabbling, here’s some edits. Take your pick:
For context, 0.0003 kWh are 0.3 Wh, i.e. ten times less than a ChatGPT query.
The unit bullshittery going on in this meme is frying my brain. I need a nap.
If I can stay awake long enough maybe I can work out how this works. My PC burns around 500Wh under load, so the time I just spent playing Abyssus was burning about 3 GPT searches a minute, by that estimation. It’s still much less than 30, and I can probably figure whatever I’m looking for in much less than that, but still.
I wonder if it’s supposed to be better or worse if I decide to burn all that at home by running a local LLM. I don’t think my GPU is more power efficient than their data centers, and it’d almost certainly run longer than 20 seconds, but I do have pretty green power sources in this area and it is air cooled.
I guess it depends on whether my office gets hot enough to make me turn on the AC.
Did you ask ChatGPT to do your math too?
Terrible choice of units hides the fact that 0.3 and 3 are not that far apart.
A full order of magnitude is “not that far”?
A lot closer than 4 orders.
I simply copied from the sources, not thinking at all. I’ve added context to the edit per everyone’s remarks. It’s about a tenth.
But you raise an interesting question.
A quick search suggests ChatGPT gets 2.5 billion prompts a day. I wouldn’t presume this is a one-to-one scale. How many Google searches result in more searches as the person is trying to refine to figure out what they’re looking for or not finding it? Additionally, how prompts into ChatGPT have further prompts for refinement?
I could see a case when ChatGPT gives quick results that take one prompt whereas someone unsuccessfully googling might make 10 searches.
Does it net out? Who knows. There’s also innumerable other factors at play. What we CAN know is that energy use has skyrocketed recently, whereas Googles been around for decades.
Actually, it shows regular searches as 10x more efficient.
Are they not the same number?
I look up recipes a lot, would love to know the actual cost of visiting a site, given all of the JavaScript and cookies, tracking, images etc that has to be loaded, that I don’t really care about
I feel like ⅒ is a gross overestimation and regular search engines should consume at least 100 times less than GPTs.
Ah, well, good thing your feeling is more important than any potential source of actual data.
Ah, well, good thing your feeling is more important than any potential source of actual data.
That’s not at all what it says; sarcasm is uncalled for.
now calculate how much power this meme took to make. or how much power all the page views take.
the easiest reference for this stuff is how much more efficient a thing is compared to an old-fashioned lightbulb. The standard lightbulb is 50W, which means leaving it on for an hour consumes 50Wh. so with that amount of energy, you could do 15 chatgpt prompts. or 150 regular searches. or run your (1500W) vacuum cleaner for two minutes. or rev your car for 1.8 seconds, assuming your engine is around 130bhp.
One of the sources I linked literally gave you your lightbulb answer, but you didn’t check. You just went straight to some kind of mansplaining.
Also, it’s a fucking meme. I don’t give that much of a shit.
it’s called “rambling”.
also, it’s about perspective.
Is the benefit provided by ChatGPT worth 3 million electric cars? Can we maybe scrap something else, like 1% of fast fashion, to equal out the capacity?
No to the first part, but we should still do the second part.
no, because line needs to go up
Seriously though, I agree with you. It’s just so wasteful. It’s really disheartening to try and do my eco friendly bit to reduce waste (particularly of power) and then data centres just piss away the ground we’ve collectively made.
Next time try making the meme without a pedophile.
Next time try making the meme without a pedophile.
Got it. I won’t make a meme with you next time.
The error with the measuring units is so grotesque it looks like bad faith to ride the AI bad wave but who knows
And chances are that option 2 gives you misinformation, and of course doesn’t cite sources.
Would be great if the AI bubble caused investments in the electric grid and renewable energy and then popped.
You don’t take into account that Google made its search worse on purpose and now you have to make two or more queries to find what you need.
I am sorry for being late, but I would love to say that the no 0.3Wh vs yes nuclear plant would be just perfect.
anyone wanna correct it then ? I currently don’t have computer for this, maybe there is android foss meme maker app though ?
New free DLC options added!
I am pretty sure you don’t need an app
