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Nemeski ( nemeski@mander.xyz )  to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 1 year ago

Spain restarts push to kill daylight saving time in EU

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Spain restarts push to kill daylight saving time in EU

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Nemeski ( nemeski@mander.xyz )  to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 1 year ago
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Brussels proposed ending seasonal time changes in 2018, but seven years later everyone’s still winding their clocks back and forth.
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  • NochMehrG ( NochMehrG@feddit.org ) 
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    Yes, please, do it already!

  • Goldholz  ( Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    YES FINALLY!

    Funny coincidence that they started doing that after i commited myself to life in winter time for ever. Wake up at 5 summer time and 6 winter time

  • iuminou ( thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    • bier ( bier@feddit.nl ) 
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      On the other hand, if we had not saved daylight we would have probably ran out by now.

  • abacabadabacaba ( abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub ) 
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    It’s about time.

  • someoneelse ( someoneelse@lemmy.ml ) 
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    deleted by creator

    • Pommes_für_dein_Balg ( mech@feddit.org ) 
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      What’s the “logical” time zone?
      The one closer to Spanish solar time, or the one shared by most EU countries, which facilitates trade and cross-border cooperation?

      • black0ut ( black0ut@pawb.social ) 
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        We don’t have our current time zone because of that. We have it because a fascist dictator wanted to be on the same time zone as Hitler.

        And the logical timezone is of course GMT, the one closer to Spanish solar time. It’s been proven that it’s not healthy to be in a timezone that doesn’t correspond to your solar time, unless you adapt all the schedules to follow the sun.

        • mapu ( mapu@slrpnk.net ) 
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          Then adapt the schedules without making every cross-border interaction artificially messier

  • alsimoneau ( alsimoneau@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Pick real time and let people adjust their schedules. It’s easier and the science backs it up.

    • prole ( prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Pick real time

      And have to put up with Bill Maher? No thanks.

    • bufalo1973 ( bufalo1973@piefed.social ) 
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      Solar time.

  • Ziggurat ( Ziggurat@jlai.lu ) 
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    Let’s keep summer time, It’s already dark before 18, once we’ll switch to winter time it’ll be dark before 17. The benefit is that instead of going to work and starting to work when it’s dark ,we’ll go to work when it’s dark and start to work at dawn. Not worth-it

    • Natanael ( Natanael@infosec.pub ) 
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      Standard time is objectively better for health. Brighter mornings is so much more important

    • Pommes_für_dein_Balg ( mech@feddit.org ) 
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      No one stops you from getting up 1h earlier in the morning.
      Permanent summer time would force everyone to do it.

      • ADTJ ( ADTJ@feddit.uk ) 
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        You got down voted but no-one actually counters that argument.

        Why should everyone be forced to get up earlier because some of the population want to? They can already do that!

        And to people who say “mORe LiGhT iN tHe evEnINgS” - for most of us in Europe it’ll only buy you a few weeks at most and then it’ll be dark by the time you finish work/school anyway.

        • The_Sasswagon ( The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org ) 
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          Because shifting schedules by an hour randomly in the middle of the year twice is physically damaging and bad for your health, that impacts you. And maybe it’s not so bad for you, you work shifting hours, no biggie. Try to imagine that you had that regular schedule and suddenly it changed, it did bother you, perhaps make decisions based on that.

          If you can’t imagine anyone else having thoughts, feelings, or emotions different from yours, consider that when you’re crossing the street the day after daylight savings time, you’re being passed by people who didn’t get enough sleep and maybe they’re like you, but they might not be, and that could directly impact you too.

          It’s such a simple small change to a weird tradition that has no more purpose in our modern world than the “moonlight lamps” of the US or the penny farthing. They may be historically important or interesting, but that doesn’t mean you should be forced to use them. Change can be scary but it’s gonna be ok, daylight savings time will inevitably end up the way of the funny big wheeled bike, it’s just a matter of when and how. You can always choose to wake up early all year round.

          • ADTJ ( ADTJ@feddit.uk ) 
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            I feel like you’re agreeing with me but your comment is phrased like you’re disagreeing

        • Mrs_deWinter ( Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org ) 
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          And to add to that: It would make the winter mornings so, so much darker.

          I don’t think many people consider how that would affect them.

    • mogoh ( mogoh@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Just get up like it would be summertime.

  • gezero ( gezero@lemmy.bowyerhub.uk ) 
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    Maybe at some point we abandon timezones all together… One can only hope…

    • Pringles ( Pringles@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      To be honest, that’s not the worst idea. It would have a ton of implications, but long term this would work fine.

    • abacabadabacaba ( abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub ) 
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      So You Want To Abolish Time Zones

      • gezero ( gezero@lemmy.bowyerhub.uk ) 
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        Fun read, I appreciate how much effort people put into saying nah uh, I don’t want/like change…

        I will continue hoping quietly.

    • RedSnt ♾️🦋♂️👓🖥️🐧 ( RedSnt@feddit.dk ) 
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      I don’t get the downvotes. They abolished timezones in China (around 1950?) and 5 geographical timezones are just going on Beijing time and have been for a while.
      Although I’m not sure if they still use “local time”, idk, and then it kind of defeats the purpose…

    • Tomtits ( blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      How would that work?

      • remon ( remon@ani.social ) 
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        Easy, everyone just uses UTC (or what ever) now.

        It’s not a technical problem, but good luck convincing people around the world to adopt it.

        • excral ( excral@feddit.org ) 
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          Time zones are fine as they are. They are less confusing than having 23:00 be close to midnight in one place, early morning in another and noon in another place. It would also result in many places either changing the date at random times or having a different date in the morning and in the evening.

          • remon ( remon@ani.social ) 
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            I never said they weren’t.

    • Tomtits ( blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      You know the whole world isnt the USA, right?

  • WanderingThoughts ( WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ) 
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    At the mere mention of changing the summer time, you get all bar and restaurant people shouting to not touch it.

    But actually we’re in the wrong time zone too, so summer time is actually just having office hours from 07:00 to 15:00 solar time but with more lying.

  • BigShammy80 ( BigShammy80@feddit.org ) 
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    Just make it happen already!

  • acargitz ( theacharnian@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Any particular reason why a sovereign country can’t just decide to do this on its own? Why does it have to be a pan-european thing?

  • FreddiesLantern ( FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ) 
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    I suggest we start using a new metric:

    It’s been x amount of seconds since the USA empire fell.

    • Devjavu ( Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      YESSSSSS

    • Echo Dot ( echodot@feddit.uk ) 
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      So it’s the year 65 right now?

  • oce 🐆 ( oce@jlai.lu ) 
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    ¡Hazlo!

  • Blackmist ( Blackmist@feddit.uk ) 
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    That’s all very well for Spain who are fairly close to the equator, but us northerners would like to see some daylight in winter.

    • HugeNerd ( HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ) 
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      In the morning or afternoon? I find living in Montreal is getting more difficult as I get older, the short summers, the brutally long and dark winter is getting to me. It’s not so much the dark but that winter is a wet soggy season now.

      I would like for it to be lighter in the afternoons. It’s brutal getting home in the pitch dark.

      • dubyakay ( dubyakay@lemmy.ca ) 
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        I think the biggest problem with Montreal is that it’s so fucking dirty in the winter, makes maintenance of vehicles a chore. If the city just embraced snow and let it get packed and rough, everyone would have an easier time with their winter and studded tires. Instead of having to wade through salt and the crushed rock that they put everywhere. And in the spring we wouldn’t be breathing dust.

        That said, I think summer is fairly long here. Mid May all the way to end of September. It’s the spring that’s missing here, since you can get snowstorms in April still. In contrast in most of continental Europe, there’s a peak of cold around end of January / February, and then that’s it. March is already the wet but bearable, with lots of blooming “snow flowers”.

        • HugeNerd ( HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ) 
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          Summer is 6 weeks, tops. The days get short real quick, August is already cool in the evening.

          I don’t think you appreciate how much snow we can get.

          https://youtu.be/t8f5AybTTKI

          • dubyakay ( dubyakay@lemmy.ca ) 
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            I’m probably your neighbour, you Need.

  • gigachad ( gigachad@piefed.social ) 
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    At this point I don’t really care anymore. The EU has not solved this problem within the last 15 years and probably won’t in the future. I understand it’s important for some people but we have bigger problems.

    • Matombo ( Matombo@feddit.org ) 
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      Yes, Veggie Burgers for example! /s

      • gigachad ( gigachad@piefed.social ) 
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        sigh

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