• Practically never in my whole live, standing in thousands of checkout lines, have l heard anyone say “Thank you” to another person placing a divider.
    Maybe under very special circumstances that primarily had nothing to do with the divider itself.

    It is in both person’s interest to place it, so the the one who has the opportunity to do it just does.

    Had I encountered the woman from the post, I just would have classified her as mentally not entirely stable and kept my distance…

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        Yeah, but social punishment for rudeness is how you get a world where strangers are polite to each other

        Bwahaha sure it is… look at what the OP posted…Do you think this event made the OP polite?

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          Yes? Obviously? Someone else got mildly publicly embarrassed for not being polite to a stranger

          As someone who does the little things like hold the door for others, I think to myself “okay, asshole” every time doesn’t acknowledge it. It makes me just a little more hesitant to do it in the future

          When someone does get called out for it, it’s incredibly vindicating. Even seeing it second hand is validating

          There’s such a thing as a good Karen. Society does need Karens, but we need them to call out people making the world a worse place in little ways like this

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              No? I just expect acknowledgement. Just a little head nod or basically any sound

              I’m not a doorman. I’m holding the door so you feel like you’re in a slightly friendlier world, I didn’t have to do this. I don’t expect others to do it for me, but my day gets a little better when they do.

              These little interactions are how a society feels friendly. It’s the fabric of civilization

              When you walk through like you’re entitled to have doors held for you, then fuck you. You’re snubbing someone trying to make the world a slightly friendlier place

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    I am autistic. Talking to total strangers anywhere but online is really fucking hard. I find the words catching in my throat every time I go to speak. And even then, sometimes it’s barely above a whisper.

    To a normal person, this is petty. To me and mine, this is cruel. And you have no way to tell which it will be. Maybe you shouldn’t support this.

      • I can’t fault you. At least we should organize into groups of 150 or less, the theorized maximum number of people that your average hairless ape can comprehend compassionately.

        I propose a cell-based or council-network system that uses directly overlapping membership via 25 member subgroups, with each person a member of two groups. It maximizes empathic reach as members would better empathize with members of their two groups while increasing the likelihood members would empathize with members of a different group through the connection of another group member.

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      I was over here thinking what if somebody didn’t even know that was what she was doing or that they were supposed to say thank you. Now that poor person will be left wondering what even happened because her resolution (picking it up and putting it back) provides no opportunity to learn.

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      I’m autistic, rules are rules. The divider provider must be acknowledged.

      Voice is improved with practice. Join a toastmasters,or learn to sing?

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        Putting the divider down is also polite. Why are we expected to always be the most polite or suffer cruelty if we don’t comply? It’s a two-way street.

        And my voice is fine. It’s the presssure and anxiety of the situation. The nervousness makes it harder to speak loudly.

        The point here is that removing the divider after having placed it simply for the person not thanking them is petty at best and cruel at worst, and it simply shouldn’t happen.

        People should be better, and should have some fucking grace and consider that maybe said person has a hard time speaking, or yet again worse, is mute.

        • Putting the divider down is also polite. Why are we expected to always be the most polite or suffer cruelty if we don’t comply?

          I always put the divider down behind my stuff, line behind me or no, and expect nothing in return from the people behind me. If the person in front of me can’t be arsed to put the divider down after their stuff, it’s fun to see how many of my items get scanned before they get to have an awkward conversation with the cashier. Yes I’m normal and well adjusted, why do you ask?

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          And my voice is fine. It’s the presssure and anxiety of the situation. The nervousness makes it harder to speak loudly.

          Yes, that’s why you have to practice. I got over mine by working in a hifi shop when I was 16. You have to speak to people, practice makes you better

        • We live in a society in which that’s the preference of most people shopping today. Thus I dont think your advice is the best advice.

          Also, If you’re gonna (needlessly) waste everyones time gonna with a meltdown by causeing a scene, then you are being as selfish as someone driving slow in the fast lane.

          This is grocery shopping, get your celery and get out. Im not saying lock him in a padded room.

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            Not saying thank you isn’t having a meltdown or making a scene, nor is it analogous to unsafe driving practices. Are you thinking this up just because they said they’re autistic?

            My advice is only to not be passive-aggressive when people don’t behave the way you think they should, which is pretty low-effort.

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    I’m human and I enjoy these stories of pettiness just like anybody else.

    But if I may please speak in my “old man who has seen things” capacity for a moment, this is not the way to live. You should endeavor to do positive things every day to make life better for people around you as well as yourself. And you don’t do this because it gets you praise or rewards, you do it because of the internal rewards. It’s good for your mind.

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    Does Amanda not do shopping? You place the divider behind your shopping. It’s Tesco Woman’s turn to put the divider, she’s in front. If he places the divider in front of his groceries, she should say thank you.

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    Is that not how you are ment to put the devider down. If the next person to put it down you may still have stuff to put on the convaer belt. This is potentially a high stakes event.

    • Yes it is high stakes.

      When I go for it, I leave exactly one milk carton of blank belt before adding the divider.

      I feel that it gives me an air of unhurried friendly eye-contact-free confidence.

      I’ve heard other people speak in this situation, but that sounds like a pro player move that I might warm up to in a few more years.

  • This doesn’t make a lot of sense. Amanda is talking about a “woman in Tesco”, but somehow knows the reason she took the divider back. Did the woman announce this or something? Or is it just guesswork? Or is it a bullshit made-up story? You decide!

    More to the point though, putting the divider would help her more than it helps the man. Because without the divider she risks the mans stuff being confused with her stuff, such that she might pay for items that aren’t hers, or just wait her own time. So why should the dude be thanking her if she’s actually just looking after her own interests? (And all that is aside from the fact that it is such a low-effort ordinary interaction that a person might not notice or care that it happened.)

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    Reminds me of the time I accidentally blocked someone behind me in the grocery store. Before I could say anthing, she shouted “Some people say excuse me!”

    So I looked all confused and did sign language saying I couldn’t hear. I will never feel bad about it because I’m trash and divider woman can join my trash villain team.