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Well, get to it then! Ain’t got all year.

I think many companies are basically stuck with Microsoft (Excel, Word, Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive etc). Switching to something else is going to be a pretty serious project. It’s going to be expensive and time consuming.
Totally worth doing IMO, but convincing the CEO is another matter. I guess we need a cautionary tale before the executives decide to reserve a few million euros for rebuilding a significant part of the IT infrastructure.
It’ll help when governments stop accepting or just blocking links to onedrive and sharepoint, and file formats that are not open. Then companies are forced into using alternatives instead of just blindly using microsoft, or don’t work for any government project again.
Now there’s a business opportunity. When companies are that screwed, they’ll start the project immediately. That’s when system migration consults get rich.
Excel is the biggest hurdle to overcome. No other spreadsheet software comes close to providing the same amount of features and functionality.
Can confirm! Calc is fine as long as you’re not trying to do anything too advanced. Then again, when you bump into those limits, you might want to consider switching to R or Python anyway. Excel just allows you to delay that inevitability a little bit longer.
I mean, you can run python (or their own language “LibreOffice Basic”) from within a Libreoffice Calc sheet.
Calc’s scripting is actually more powerful than the aging VBA thing Excel uses for macros, imho.
Very interesting… I guess my calculations can be supercharged while still technically remaining in the realm of a spreadsheet.
Hopefully Python still runs with its usual consistency. VBA is a total nightmare in this regard. The code can randomly throw some useless error for no obvious reason. You can run the same code a few hours later and everything works perfectly even though you didn’t change anything. Can’t really use anything that unstable for anything serious.
And a lot of people don’t need all those features.
If they put all the effort they use to change things in favor of ai to migrate to software alternatives, it would be a perfectly viable project
This is the main problem, changing the infrastructure in companies which use Windows, Certainly Microsoft EU is way more privacy focused (forced by law) than Microsoft US which use even keyloggers and sharing data with Towerdata and a lot of others. But this, even so, companies and administrations use more and more alternatives to Windows apps and services The EU has tons of good and even better alternatives to those from US corps, it’s not a tecnical problem, but an political and burocratic one for companies and administrations to change, not so for the normal user, who can easily change his setup to his like from a huge catalogue of EU soft and services.
Likewise, climate change isn’t really a technological problem. Governments don’t motivate companies stop destroying the planet, so they don’t. Obviously, there are some technological issues too, but for the most part, it’s a political issue.
I think many companies are basically stuck with Microsoft (Excel, Word, Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive etc).
Tbh, office and collaboration tools are the least of our worries; there are plenty of good alternatives which, with some financial support, can be adapted to suit companies’ needs in very little time. What should worry us more are the tons of critical applications tailored to a very specific area of administration and business. The software that runs the power plants and hospitals. The software that manages logistics and industrialised production. The software that runs our accounting and HR. That’s the Windows lock-in that we’re not going to shake off over night.
Oh, that and the hardware vendors + hyperscalers…
Same with industrial automation, power grid, production management, etc. Most people don’t even realise how much critical software is Windows-only.
I think its great that Europe is looking to rely less on US tech but nothing about whats going on with Europe (especially within the EU) makes me think privacy is a focus.
Not even the GDPR?
GDPR is nice and all, but people have been fighting chat control and all its hydra heads for years now, so no.
But I’m an American so what do I know?
But I’m an American so what do I know?
You know much more about the world around you than the orange turd that claims to be the leader of the free world. Don’t sell yourself short, mate! It’ll take people like you to rebuild once this is over.
It hasn’t stopped countries like France, and Italy (not a complete list just examples) from being some of the least privacy friendly western governments.
Companies that have had their whole data on Google/MS servers for 20 years certainly don’t care for privacy the way you and I do. But they are certainly realizing that US providers are not the way to go. Baby steps I guess.
Yeah? Because Chat Control is still a thing. And age verification as well, but the EU won’t outsource that to 3rd parties (we have EIDAS and the EU wallet for that).
It will never happen as long as slugs like van der Leyen or Merz are running the show. These people are completely incompetent.
No.
Merz and von der Leyen are extremely competent, they just don’t pursue the goals they say they do. They may even belief that they are pursuing other goals than they really do.
They believe in trickle down economics despite all evidence pointing to it making everything worse. In their pursuit of economic growth, they do the exact thing that in their model should boost, but in reality stifles growth. They increase the wealth redistribution from the poor and middle class to the rich.
And they are so damn good at it. That’s the reason money has put them in their current positions.
They are extremely competent in doing the wrong thing.
They believe in trickle down economics despite all evidence pointing to it making everything worse.
It is high time we switch to Pinata economics.

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Oh yes. Because Merz builds data centers, and Der Leyen is known for making IT decisions at EU companies. They also happen to be the queens of private investors.
don’t talk about it… do it!
The alternatives don’t have to be perfect. Reducing the dominance of any single country is a good thing.
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Yes, except for the last word, there’s no ‘d’
right, i misread it as ممكدن
oh god… we have built everything on microsoft stuff and the higher ups insist that anything that legally can be hosted on the cloud be migrated to azure. This will cause us (the actual workers) untold levels of pain if it were mandated by the eu.
I still wish it does become mandatory though
Wasn’t Europe going full open source?
Proton is awesome! I can’t say enough good things about them.








