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James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website )  to Risa@startrek.websiteEnglish · 6 个月前

"I'm not against representation, but..." folks be like

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"I'm not against representation, but..." folks be like

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James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website )  to Risa@startrek.websiteEnglish · 6 个月前
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  • Iced Raktajino ( IcedRaktajino@startrek.website ) 
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    Adding a few more

    • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) OP
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      I tried to work in a Pa’nar syndrome one but it was too clunky. I appreciate how you just slapped “HIV ALLEGORY” on it 😂

      • Iced Raktajino ( IcedRaktajino@startrek.website ) 
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        Sometimes clunky problems require simple solutions lol. I couldn’t figure out any other way to represent Pa’nar syndrome in a still.

        • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) OP
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          Listen, you got the job done not to mention this meme is specifically about how nitpicking representation is harmful to representation.

    • haverholm ( haverholm@kbin.earth ) 
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      Ezri Dax, from DS9. She's talking to somebody off-camera, saying "I'm still sorting out my pronouns".

    • hzl ( hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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      I love Dax. We need more Dax. And

      spoiler

      ___Tawny Newsome should really get to play her more than once.

      • ValueSubtracted ( ValueSubtracted@startrek.website ) 
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        From her publicity blitz for the episode, I don’t think she’s too excited to go through the prosthetics process again.

  • Autonomous ( autonomous@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Racism they took head on more, but gender/sexuality they had to be more creative so as to keep berman and the execs from figuring it out.

    Gender and sexuality have made leaps and bounds since then and episodes that deal with it similarly now are more likely to be broadcast. It’s the same spirit as before, just catching up with the times.

    • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) OP
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      And the one time they finally gave a single throwaway line to the fact that enbys exist, quote-unquote “progressives” suddenly clutch their pearls over it.

  • usernamefactory ( usernamefactory@lemmy.ca ) 
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    If they saw it before they were 14, it’s nuanced, insightful, even challenging. If they saw it after they were 14, it’s shallow insincere pandering.

    • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) OP
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      Honestly sums it up. /r/im35andthisispandering

  • lengau ( lengau@midwest.social ) 
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    Yeah this shit irritates me in part because I feel like Discovery has lazy writing, but it’s hard to make those criticisms of it because as soon as you start people dismiss you as a shitlord because they assume you think it’s that shit.

    • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) OP
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      There are a lot of people out there who are “totally ok with the gays” but put such a high bar on what constitutes acceptable representation that it starts to feel like bigotry by omission.

      • lengau ( lengau@midwest.social ) 
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        Yeah, I agree. That’s the thing — I have no problem with whatever “woke” stuff people are complaining about. My complaints are things like “this is the first time anyone in Star Trek (outside of time travel) mentioned inches.”

        • USSBurritoTruck ( USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website ) 
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          My complaints are things like “this is the first time anyone in Star Trek (outside of time travel) mentioned inches.”

          Why are you blaming Disco for something that TNG did?

        • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) OP
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          i don’t think that ever happened

          • lengau ( lengau@midwest.social ) 
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            Except the representation is literally not what I have a problem with?

            • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) OP
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              deleted by creator

              • lengau ( lengau@midwest.social ) 
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                Wow it took me way too long to realise you were trolling…

    • FrChazzz ( FrChazzz@lemmus.org ) 
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      Agreed with the reaction to criticisms. My biggest problem with Discovery is the fact that, during the last two seasons especially, you’d frequently have some insanely huge event taking place that also has a ticking clock and the crew will just stop trying to solve the event so they can have a little talk about their feelings.

      I have no problem with Star Trek talking about people’s feelings. I have no problem with Burnham’s arc effectively being about her seeing the value of her emotions (after having been raised by Vulcans). I have no problem with a Star Trek show having scenes of therapy or whatnot. I have huge problems with these things happening IN THE MIDDLE OF A TICKING CLOCK GALAXY WIDE CRISIS. You’re supposed to be professionals. Get it together, finish the mission, then deal with all of this in debrief!

      But some might read this and think that I’m “hur dur, Michael Burnham is crying all the time.” Nope.

  • SatyrSack ( SatyrSack@quokk.au ) 
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    What is that spiral?

    • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) OP
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      The most tasteful way I could include a non white human character directly referring to their non white culture as being a part of their identity while also tiptoeing around the fact that the specific culture being represented was… not real

    • kieron115 ( kieron115@startrek.website ) 
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      not a damn clue tbh

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