On some of those late nights, especially when I picked up Indian food, I’d be hungry enough to genuinely consider this

  • kibiz0r ( kibiz0r@midwest.social ) 
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    I’m convinced that the real goal of most tech these days is not to solve problems, but to make them someone else’s problems.

    You’re a driver and think we’re not paying you enough? Sorry, our hands are tied, it’s all algorithmic.

    You want sick time and health care? Sorry, since your manager is an app you’re technically not an employee but an independent contractor.

    You want the food you paid for? Sorry, that’s between you and the driver and/or restaurant. We’re just a mediator.

    And then they dupe some of us into blaming the consumers or workers. This is not a problem you can solve with market forces.

    They act this way because the regulatory environment allows them to, not because they’re carefully watching what consumers think.

    Remember, these are companies that are willing to burn billions to shut down any threats to their business models. By all means, be choosy with where you spend your money and who you work for. But don’t delude yourself into thinking that’s how we win.

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      Thats a nice way of putting it. I always just thought of it as inserting themselves into things that worked fine before but now they extract margin from everyone involved.

      I used to just phone a local business and someone would who worked for them would bring me food. It worked fine.

      • It still works for so many places, all you need to do is pick up the phone and ask. Some have order forms on their websites too and you usually get a better deal.

        But beware, some of those App companies create URLs for businesses (without their knowledge or consent) to reroute your search back to their App.

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      This is 100% why these services exist. Running a.business with emplpyees who are delivery deivers is expensive, especially when benefits and insurance are required.

      Hence the push for these bull shit “gig work” style apps.

      Now you get people who maybe make 10% more as a Door Dasher than they wpuod directly working as say, a Pizza Hut driver dirrctly. Without realizing they are making basically halfnas much because they also get to cover all the backend expense Pizza Hutt wpuld cover.

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    Pictured: every single commenter who came into this thread to blame the victim because they think $130 on delivery is too decadent. Yall should be ashamed of yourselves.

  • I was reading an story on Reddit about a guy who worked as a door dash driver, and he basically said that this is the requirement to meet the necessary ROI for a real job. He listed off a million tricks to maximize profits. If you refuse low-cost/low-tip orders, Doordash will tend to prompt you with higher value orders, and give the low-value orders to the people who won’t refuse them, so you can gradually build your way into the premium customer base. If an order will deliver to a low-income area, it’s not always worth the trip back to a high income area by the nice restaurants, so he usually refused those too. It was honestly an awful testimonial to read, everything he listed off screws over his fellow man because Door dash makes it impossible to screw them over for even a penny.

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    Gig delivery is a rotten model to its core. You are better off learning to cook, driving or walking to pick up your food, or calling the business directly if they have their own drivers. Its hard I know, but so is paying an extra tax on every item, plus service fees, just to have an app do it

      • Yeah I will concede that handicapped individuals benefit the most from the availability of drivers, but like…the drivers need everyone else to be on board to make a living wage and that doesnt make any sense. Better public transit and assistance programs are a better investment than lining Ubers pockets

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        Such a person is more likely also dealing with poverty. Do you really think disabled people have the luxury of counting on restaurant food three meals a day?

        restaurants don’t produce food. they produce addictive, calorific entertainment products that are genuinely not intended to be consumed all day everyday because you will die.

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    As typical with social media comments, half of them aren’t even concerned about the driver blatantly stealing food. It’s about attacking the person using the service without knowing the details. And I don’t think anyone brought up how shitty the drivers gets paid (the ones who actually do the job right).

    I know the response - then get another job. That’s silently approving the company’s methodology, nice.

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    Nah. Cuz frankly, if you are willing to pay that much for a delivered meal, then you deserve for some stupid bullshit to happen. Door dash would not be able to exist in a world with sane and deliberating consumers. You let them take advantage of you, especially if you know how they work and their reputation.

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        I just grew up poor and find the level of fiscal irresponsibility involved in ride sharing your meals appalling. Not one of those “pull yourself up from your bootstraps” guys (there are lots of forces that keep people in poverty), but you might aswell be lighting money on fire if you get doordash.

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          This person could be getting a catered bbq spread for a family. The idea that you automatically assume this is one person buying something for themselves shows you’re just looking for a reason to be angry.

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            I could feed 10 people ribs and potato salad and it wouldn’t even come close to breaking a hundo (I usually feed more on labor day). That is the power of doing your own cooking.

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              What if the customer is incapable of some or all of the chain of tasks required to produce the home cooked equivalent?

              Could be they work pretty much their whole waking life, running 3 or more jobs.

              Could be they’re disabled and can’t do grocery shopping, or food prep, or cooking.

              Before you judge someone, spend a few minutes imagining why exactly the circumstances are the way they are, and aim for a bit beyond the hateboner fantasy you already had in mind, yeah?

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                You have really made a character there. My 90 yo grandma gets by on getting her groceries delivered. Most places do that themselves since the pandemic (or you can get curbside.) and you dont even have to pay doordash for it.

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                  My aunt did fine getting shopping delivered, until she had a stroke that took out 20% of one hemisphere. Using a kitchen knife after that was downright dangerous. Is she supposed to avoid providing pizza or similar for her kids’ birthday parties in your world?

                  Just one real world example that took me but seconds. Think beyond your bubble.

      • Sanctus ( Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ) 
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        Dude has a point. 137 dollars? What the fuck are we doing? Why do we keep doing it? Its not entirely the users fault. But like, I dont use any of these services. They’re practically cold food scams.

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        Doordash is an evil corporation that taxes idiots by middlemaning for them. By paying for a meal through them, you are enabling them to continue doing that. They are very literally stealing food from people, but they do it through the margins. Not tryna defend the drivers that do this, but they have to eat too and when you are employed through doordash, stealing probably is the best way to do that.

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      I just keep using their 50% off “new customer” coupons over and over through various means, they don’t make a profit as-is and they definitely don’t make a profit off me

      Taking advantage of their coupons it usually costs about the same driving myself and ordering directly or sometimes cheaper (including tip)

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        I used to do that with the meal delivery services (like hello fresh) mostly to see where the quality and portion sizes were at. Even when they were heavily discounted the math didn’t math though, I could still go to a grocery store and get more for less. You pay a lot for convenience no matter what when it comes to food.

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          I kept getting spam from Hello Fresh for 75% off if you reactive your subscription, so I did and promptly cancelled again. I repeated this for 6 weeks, for 6 meals for 2 people for $28 each week. It was great while it lasted.

  • kate ( kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com ) 
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    lol this happened to me once, the driver just went home with my pizza. the restaurant ended up staying open late to cook it again for me ❤️