• FoundFootFootage78 ( Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Require age verification only if you want to get algorithmic recommendations. That way you can still engage in the social internet anonymously as an adult.

      The recommendation algorithms give American big tech way too much political sway in Europe and ideally they should be banned entirely, but age verification at least gives the appearance that this is “for the children” and not something with (justifiable) political motivations.

      • GMac ( GMac@feddit.org ) 
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        But its not age verification thats actually being implemented. It’s identity verification mislabelled to take advantage of dumb legislation with yet more privacy over reach.

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        And mandate they integrate with interoperability standards like activitypub etc so if they start manipulating feeds then we can just exit stage left without losing contact with people we like.

  • eleitl ( eleitl@lemmy.zip ) 
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    It’s not an age restriction. It’s a mandatory ID for everybody. They know we hate them, and are afraid. Perhaps they should make a law against killer drones instead.

  • I would never have believed it possible that almost all politicians of ostensibly democratic countries almost simultaneously agree to prevent young people from having fun, being happy and finding meaning and fulfillment in their lives. How do these people think of themselves as the good guys?

  • Random Dent ( CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ) 
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    While this is obviously bad, I don’t think there’s ever really a total win or loss when it comes to this stuff. It’s a constant fight. They’ll bring shit like this in and it’ll seem hopeless, then someone will bypass it and it’ll go back and forth. Same as ad blocking or DRM or countless other things.

    It’d be nice to not have to deal with it in the first place, but we’ll deal with it sooner or later I’m sure.

  • melsaskca ( melsaskca@lemmy.ca ) 
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    It should be dependent on the sites offering adult material to have an account with a login. All other non-adult sites keep operating as before and kids can peruse freely. If a kid steals a password that’s a kid thing, not a system thing. Nothing is foolproof and people get slapped in the face with shit they don’t want to see all the time. Education and proper implementation is the key, not restriction and censorship.

    • mineralman ( mineralman@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Adoption is perhaps the impetus needed for common sense to prevail. If everyone keeps spending all their money at a partcular casino, they aren’t going to change a thing. But if everyone stopped coming, you can be damn sure they start looking at what they can reform. Nothing improves if people don’t start to care about the security of their PII. That’s a huge rock.

  • For one, they want all our data, they want to know all we do online.

    For other, they found out children who grew exposed to people’s opinions online grows more critical that kids that grew on they caged propaganda. Not good for their business to have citizens that can actually think.

  • Phoenixz ( phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 
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    So how is that going to work exactly?

    Facebook is easy, you force the company or block it.

    But how about, say, Lemmy, or other self hosted places maybe where where people do use their real names? How is any of this supposed to work?

  • utopiah ( utopiah@lemmy.ml ) 
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    What a disgusting rage bait title.

    Please no matter the news do not invite others to give up. You might be totally depleted. You might have fought teeth and nails against problems but if you want to give up let others try.

    This is deeply problematic and of course precisely helps those you do agree with.

    Do not fall prey to learned helplessness.

    If politicians and lobbyists can keep on proposing a law until it goes through, so can we, including the very politicians who do not represent our views.

    The situation might be bleak and I can understand the frustration but this kind of title is not helping.

  • ZiClaud ( ZiClaud@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I mean, kids are smart when it comes to technology, some even more than me who got a degree in computer science.

    They’ll find an alternative, maybe they’ll to go back to personal websites, or join the fediverse, who knows.

    Imma stay optimistic