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VetOfTheSeas ( VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online )  to Memes@sopuli.xyz · 3 months ago
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  • nymnympseudonym ( nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ) 
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    There’s aso no reason the physical copy can’t demand to get a validation token from Corporate Server every time it’s played

    • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Yep, DRM is the problem, not the distribution format.

    • webghost0101 ( webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      “Please drink verification can”

    • adarza ( adarza@lemmy.ca ) 
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      key codes that get tied to a non-transferable online account have also been a thing for years.

      • Sturgist ( Sturgist@piefed.ca ) 
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        key codes that get tied to a non-transferable online account have also been a thing for years. decades.

  • one_old_coder ( one_old_coder@piefed.social ) 
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    Shitty copy pasta with AI-generated picture that forgets that software is patched all the time compared to movies and music.

    I hate streaming more than anyone, but that sloppy comparison sucks.

    • marxismtomorrow ( marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today ) 
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      A) If you think this is AI generated and are not just making a rage-baiting pun reference, you’re a silly billy wittle buddy who needs to be given a raspberry.

      B) Games used to not need patching. Even games that were patched later had an on-disc version you could always install and play. And games were in fact better for it. A game going gold meant something, now it’s just a release day with a 0 day patch to be even slightly functional.

    • SomeRandomNoob ( SomeRandomNoob@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Remember the console days before the Internet grew up? No downloads. No Patches. The games just worked.

      • PabloSexcrowbar ( PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ) 
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        Games back then had bugs, too, they just never got fixed and everyone pretended they didn’t exist.

      • blartcap_ ( blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        There were lots of games that had multiple release revisions that fixed bugs. Gran Turismo 2’s original versions couldn’t be completed 100% due to a glitch, a reprint ended up fixing it. If you bought the game on launch, you were stuck with that copy.

        This is also why if you go looking for ROMs, you’ll see some games have multiple versions with some differences.

        There were also lots of games that were released in buggy, unfinished states. They just don’t get remembered but anyone who grew up gaming in the 90s and early 2000s probably remembers getting some garbage bargain bin games from relatives at Christmas that were complete disasters. The Fifth Element game, for example.

      • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        And if they didn’t just work, they never got fixed.

      • one_old_coder ( one_old_coder@piefed.social ) 
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        I hate AI and all that shit, but I have heard a lot of horror stories from developers who worked on “retro” gaming systems (from the Megadrive/Genesis to the Jaguar). I admire them for all the work they did because it was hard to code, but there are a fuckton of bugs that were sold during the good old days, and no one noticed what was happening because those bugs were never found.

      • AlteredEgo ( AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Games used to be much more simple too, and easier to test and fix.

    • mushroommunk ( mushroommunk@lemmy.today ) 
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      That’s the girl from Pragmata isn’t it? Doesn’t scream AI to me

      • ImgurRefugee114 ( ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com ) 
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        Well, I mean, technically,…

      • perishthethought ( perishthethought@piefed.social ) 
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        It is! I oddly enough just finished playing thru this scene just a few minutes ago, came in here and was like, huhwhat?!? Diana made a drawing for you and is showing to you for the first time in this scene in the game.

    • Axolotl ( Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ) 
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      Fun fact: you can just make the games download the patches later on your computer or use a storage device that is RW and write the patched game on the storage the device the game is shipped on

    • M137 ( M137@lemmy.today ) 
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      It’s not an AI-generared picture.

  • wewbull ( wewbull@feddit.uk ) 
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    They should have moved to USB keys a long time ago. Make them big and call them cartridges if you want, but optical discs are far too slow.

    • MonkderVierte ( MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ) 
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      And loud. And fragile.

      Thumbdrives have a firmware, you could easily make them read-only. And also add your inconvenient DRM snake oil, if you will.

      But no, cloud promises more $$$ through lock-in.

      • ohulancutash ( ohulancutash@feddit.uk ) 
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        Thumb drives also have very poor retention. If they aren’t used at least every few years the storage becomes corrupted.

        • MonkderVierte ( MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ) 
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          GameBoy?/Nintendo cardridges also had a small battery.

    • purplemonkeymad ( purplemonkeymad@programming.dev ) 
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      Can you imagine if video game prices were affected by the memory shortages?

      But is this not how switch1 games were, just read only sdcards with the game on them.

      • prettybunnys ( prettybunnys@piefed.social ) 
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        Nintendo loves a cartridge, and goddamnit sticking with them was right.

  • Sibbo ( Sibbo@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    You can buy games DRM free on GOG and burn them onto a disk yourself. Or multiple ones, if needed

  • khaleer ( khaleer@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    well, music and movies do not weight several hundred GB of data… but that’s also modern games problem.

    As a person working in gamdev - they ABSOLUTELY can optimise - people just doesn’t care nowaday.

  • BarneyPiccolo ( BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ) 
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    The fundamental difference is that when you buy those formats, you are getting a final product. Nobody is stopping your disc in the middle, to ask if you want to download the special remix of this song, or a deleted scene.

    Video games are now constantly upselling, and they can’t do that if the consumer is isolated on their PC.

  • makeshift0546 ( makeshift0546@lemmy.today ) 
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    Fuck valve. Oh I forgot they get a pass.

    • VitoRobles ( VitoRobles@lemmy.today ) 
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      Even when Steam delists games, you still have access to it, even after twenty years.

      The content you bought? Sony removed your access after a few years.

      • makeshift0546 ( makeshift0546@lemmy.today ) 
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        Can I sell it?

        • DanceMomsSavedMe ( DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip ) 
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          You can’t do this with electronic DRM free copies either.

    • Jimbo ( Jimbo@pawb.social ) 
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      Oh yeah let’s just hate on every store front ever even if they haven’t really done something wrong!

      If we’re not going to reward good behaviour, what are we doing here?? Valve might as well go to shit and fuck everyone for a little more profit if everybody’s going to shit on them anyway just for existing.

    • jtrek ( jtrek@startrek.website ) 
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      If Sony was selling a backlog going back to 1980 at deep discount with no monthly fees and DRM-free at the seller’s discretion, they would get less flak.

    • ryannathans ( ryannathans@aussie.zone ) 
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      You have been able to buy steam games on discs but it’s up to the publisher to produce those, not valve

    • inconel ( inconel@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I just wander what would be like Steam with Valve bandcamp style physical merch selection. haven’t cheched but atleast itch.io wont forbid to put link to their physical merch store?

  • orca ( orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts ) 
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    Sony thinking they can just pull a Steam way too late in the game, and with Steam and GOG as competitors 😂

  • trainsrkool ( trainsrkool@lemmy.ml ) 
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    ootl?

    • cartoon meme dog ( grozzle@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Sony recently announced they’ll stop making discs for Playstations in 2028.

      • trainsrkool ( trainsrkool@lemmy.ml ) 
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        ahhh thats som bs! cant have anythin nice in this world 😒

  • homes ( homes@piefed.world ) 
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    Excuse me, but still? not 8 mm, VHS, or DVD? People existed before the year 2000.

    Fucking millennials

    • Godort ( Godort@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Oh man, I can’t wait to pick up a copy of Project Hail Mary on VHS. I’m sure that will be widely available and easy to purchase

      • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮  ( Kolanaki@pawb.social ) 
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        I mean, vinyl and cassettes for music are still made, sure, but they are usually limited run collectors items; not something you can just buy everywhere for every album that gets released. Even new CDs aren’t exactly easy to come by.

        The only time I see BluRays or DVDs anymore of movies I have actually heard of, is at a thrift store.

    • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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      Blu-Ray is pertinent here because it is a Sony product

      But they could have mentioned other formats too - would it have made the argument any better? Absolutely not, but sure, go ahead and yell at clouds

      • homes ( homes@piefed.world ) 
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        So were CDs and VHS

        • NigelFrobisher ( NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 
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          Sony backed Betamax. They lost that round.

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        • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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          Jvc made vhs but go off

    • Th4tGuyII ( Th4tGuyII@fedia.io ) 
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      Is a bit wild how they remembered to put down vinyls and even cassettes, but forgot DVDs and VHS tapes which are very arguably bigger household names than Blu-ray.

      Also, literally all millenials were born before 2000. And many of them (myself included) grew up with VHS and DVD.

      • homes ( homes@piefed.world ) 
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        See how they bury me

  • gray ( gray@lemmy.ml ) 
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    They often need updates from online sources, so what’s the point

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    especially since the relative cost of drives compared to GPU, SSD and RAM is falling fast. It’s probably the cheapest of them already.

  • Smaile ( Smaile@lemmy.ca ) 
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    as long as i get an unlocked version of the files, im happy, but if i don’t, to the great seas i go, tho i still buy. i just have a ‘backup’ in case anything happens.

  • bunnybunny ( bunnybunny@lemmy.zip ) 
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    I’m guessing the PS6 will jailbroken rather quickly

  • antrosapien ( antrosapien@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Yes, there’s a reason, and the reason is “lin mus go up”

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