The original claim was the meme, I said that internment camps are not at the same level as extermination camps or a campaign of elimination (the full text of what I said is on the mod-log, don’t want to break the rule I broke again by saying more), people asked me to prove that there were internment camps and I offered the well-known Xianjiang camps as an example. Since that exchange the primary argument I’ve had is that I fell for western propaganda, which I admit is possible. So far evidence to the contrary of the existence of the camps in Xianjiang have been claims by Chinese government officials I found myself which contradict one another. No hard evidence disproving any of the mountain of evidence (which could be compromised, I admit) has been offered. I am biased that I tend not to believe massive institutions which are advantaged by presenting specific narratives generally, which is why I don’t just believe what the english-language sources say nor do I believe what the Chinese authorities say without supporting evidence. I find that if there is a mountain of evidence that these camps exist, and if none of the evidence has been contradicted or disproven thus far, then it’s more likely that these camps exist than don’t exist.

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