SomeDude ( @ProcurementCat@feddit.de ) 37•1 year agoIt doesnt matter what russia says or does in this regard. What is important is if Turkey sticks with it and provides protection for those ships or not.
sunbeam60 ( @sunbeam60@lemmy.one ) 6•1 year agoAh, yes, Turkey, the dependable ally which still hasn’t agreed to Sweden’s accession to NATO!
mim ( @mim@lemmy.sdf.org ) 15•1 year agoYou should check the news.
sunbeam60 ( @sunbeam60@lemmy.one ) 8•1 year agoAll I’ve seen are words from Turkey. First the words were “we won’t accept Sweden”. Then the words were “we will accept Sweden”. Still Turkey has not officially accepted Sweden and Sweden is not yet a member. Erdogan says a lot. His actions is what I count.
mim ( @mim@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•1 year agoHis country’s economy is in the toilet, the last thing he needs it to antagonise one of their largest (if not the largest) trading partner: the EU.
Doubt he will continue blocking it, but time will tell.
ghost_laptop ( @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml ) 5•1 year agoLol
Hexadecimalkink ( @Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year agoThey won’t.
xuxebiko ( @xuxebiko@kbin.social ) 33•1 year agoWhy is Russia allowed to hold the world hostage? Who right do they have to starve people in other countries?
Every nation should kick Russians out, block their accounts, and sanction Russia.
GuyFi ( @GuyFi@lemmy.sdf.org ) 8•1 year agoThey aren’t, but they just can do that. International politics is reallllly anarchistic because how the fuck do you arrest a country. Say if the U.S decided to just stop exporting anything at all- no more food and other stuff- all you could really do is just tell them pwese downt doo that, we need the foweign aiwd :3 This also assumes your the leader of a powerful country, which is a rather difficult position to get to.
In essence, get fucked international politics go brrrrr
- AnarchoYeasty ( @AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) 4•1 year ago
Except that isn’t remotely true. For example we can set up trade embargos and cut Russia off from all trade under US sphere of influence so they’ll only be able to trade with Brazil India Iran and China. We can also seize foreign owned assets owned by Russians in western nations. More aggressively we can send US/NATO war ships to Ukraine to provide an armed escort for Ukrainian ships carrying grain in order to ensure that shipments do not delay.
GuyFi ( @GuyFi@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•1 year agoFair enough
magnetosphere ( @HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org ) 21•1 year agoIt’s a really good thing that I’m not President. I have NO patience for this shit. Stopping Ukraine’s food shipments is simply unacceptable. I would have sent the Navy into the Black Sea by now, and possibly started a war with Turkey if they tried to stop the ships.
The world does not need people like me in charge.
- AnarchoYeasty ( @AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) 8•1 year ago
Fuck man I wish our world leaders would actually take action on stuff like this. Direct war with Russia appears to be becoming more and more an inevitable conclusion. They are going to cross a line sooner or later that will necessitate it. The only question is how long will we allow them to fuck over Ukraine/Their neighbors/The world before we do so. I’m anti wars of imperialism but despite what edgy tankies might believe the only imperialism at play in Ukraine is Russian imperialism. And I am absolutely in favor of war to end genocide and Russia is committing genocide.
rusticus1773 ( @rusticus1773@lemmy.ml ) 19•1 year agoIf we haven’t already, all foreign assets of Putin and all Russian leadership and oligarchs need to be seized immediately. Unless the pain is felt by those with power nothing will change.
There are also a number of Western companies still operating in Russia. That needs to change.
abraxas ( @abraxas@lemmy.ml ) English1•1 year agoThe answer to the paradox of tolerance is usually “the one fighting for homogeneity is in the right”.
I mean, every action a police officer takes in any country parallels to some of the worst crimes imaginable. An armed person saying “You are not allowed to leave” is a felony in my country punishable by up to life imprisonment. While people argue about problems with police behavior or severity of criminal penalties, it is generally agreed upon that an arrest of a suspected violent offender is always worse than civilian kidnapping.
And perhaps outside of the police, for every person I’ve met who is so anti-cop they consider arresting even a serial-killer unacceptable, I have found common ground of some severe behavior they feel is only rightly done by the party trying to find a peaceful coexistance.
Hexadecimalkink ( @Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml ) 11•1 year agoI believe this is because the EU didn’t fulfill their part of the deal to allow for Russian fertilizer exports. And most of the Ukrainian grain was being exported to developed countries, which wasn’t the intent of the deal. This reporting doesn’t reflect all of the facts on why the deal failed. It’s not the Russians being evil.
Joker ( @Joker@beehaw.org ) 14•1 year agoBullshit. The Russians are waging war against a smaller country that was begging to avoid war. And do you remember the Russians were lying all along while they massed troops on the border? They called it a training exercise. The reason anybody is in this situation at all is Russia. The EU doesn’t owe Russia a damn thing.
Just weeks ago, the Russians destroyed a dam, killing thousands of people and causing an ecological catastrophe. For the past year, they have been teasing a disaster at Zaporizhzhia.
You are mistaken, friend. Russia is evil.
Hexadecimalkink ( @Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml ) 9•1 year agoRussia destroyed a damn under their control, and want to damage a nuclear plant they control? Does that make sense?
Anyway, the EU doesn’t owe Russia anything because of their invasion, agreed. But the grain export agreement had conditions that the EU admits they failed to fulfill, for example SWIFT access. Please read up on the details if you’re going to debate geopolitics, it’s never as clear as what the news reports.
peterpan520 ( @peterpan520@feddit.de ) 8•1 year agoNot true:
Also most wheat goes to China. 2/3 goes to developing countries.
ghost_laptop ( @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml ) 0•1 year agoShowing the data that way does not help at all and it seems fraudulent, most of the grain was going to go to China, which, yeah, is a “developing country” which basically means it’s not the West, but they don’t have much trouble feeding their people or high poverty levels. If you remove China from that list it’s just white people territory mostly. Look at a real graph which was indicated above.
Dieguito 🦝 ( @DieguiTux8623@feddit.it ) 7•1 year agoHigher prices for crops, inflation skyrocketing and higher interest rates for everyone soon arriving! Another turn of the spiral is coming. Western capitalism is the “best” system ever, sure.
nodq ( @nodq@kbin.social ) 20•1 year agoAre you really trying to blame anything else other than Russia? If Putin didn’t invade Ukraine we wouldn’t have these issues and wouldn’t be in the current situation. Sigh…
Dieguito 🦝 ( @DieguiTux8623@feddit.it ) 5•1 year agoI really doubt it’s as simple as that. That there is an “external enemy” that needs to be annihilated for the west to be happy and thrive. A film seen too many times. It’s our society that it’s collapsing under its own weight. Financial speculators are ready to grab an opportunity to increase profits and the poorest and most defenseless classes are going to pay a high toll for this. The Greek had a word for what we have done and it’s “hybris” i.e. failing to remember our limits (as human beings) and wanting too much (be if for pride or greed). Rather than blaming others we should blame ourselves. And accept to downscale our economy.
LwL ( @LwL@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 4•1 year agoNo shit there are issues with capitalism
But they have absolutely nothing to do with this situation
- AnarchoYeasty ( @AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org ) 4•1 year ago
You are mistaken friend. It was actually western capitalists disguised as Russians who invaded Ukraine. Don’t you know that at least 1/3rd of the “troops” invading Ukraine is actually notorious war monger Joe Biden himself in disguise? Stay woke.
eleitl ( @eleitl@lemmy.ml ) 2•1 year agoFun fact: only 2.5% of the grain went to the poor countries in need. And none of the non-Russian parts of the deal were honored, so not really a surprise it was dropped after Erdogan won the election.
zephyreks ( @zephyreks@lemmy.ca ) 0•1 year agoIf the US would start dialogue with China it might actually stand a chance of taking on Russia and winning without destabilizing the region. Direct US intervention in the region would be akin to Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan: it would serve to destabilize the region.
The US will never consider this because it prefers a weak Russia to a strong China.