ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє ( @SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org ) 36•1 year agoIt’s time to root cars, it looks like.
Contend6248 ( @Contend6248@feddit.de ) 9•1 year agoAnd lose all warranty? Nah rather buy a car from someone else
Col3814444 ( @Col3814444@kbin.social ) 27•1 year agoNever EVER would I buy a car from any manufacturer that does this.
zea ( @conneru64@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 26•1 year agoYou might not have a choice if they all decide to do it. Companies are actually kinda good at that kind of collective actions sometimes.
johnthedoe ( @johnthedoe@lemmy.ml ) 26•1 year agoWhen this becomes the norm. I look to the jailbreak community for hope.
I WILL download a car!
Chariotwheel ( @Chariotwheel@kbin.social ) 7•1 year agoWe said that when the Oblivion horse armor released. And look where we are now.
At some point basically everyone will do it and marketing will fo the rest.
Col3814444 ( @Col3814444@kbin.social ) 9•1 year agoOblivion doesn’t cost $50k+ to buy. If these greedy fuckers think they can RENT me parts of a car I already own, they can go fuck themselves.
McBinary ( @McBinary@kbin.social ) 13•1 year agoJohn Deere has entered the chat
Marketsupreme ( @Marketsupreme@lemm.ee ) 4•1 year agoAll modern problems can be traced back to Ronald Regan and Todd Howard.
Holzkohlen ( @Holzkohlen@feddit.de ) 26•1 year agoLet’s build open source cars.
GreaterDane ( @GreaterDane@reddthat.com ) 7•1 year agoI mean, there are car builder kits.
The DIY urban transportation community has settled on an even more portable solution called the “e-bike.” It can tow a trailer of cargo or small kids, and makes city parking much easier.
Gork ( @Gork@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year agoOr pirate name brand cars.
You wouldn’t download a car
HikingVet ( @HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org ) 3•1 year agoOnly due to logistical issues. Metal printers aren’t that good yet.
boonhet ( @boonhet@lemm.ee ) 2•1 year agopirate name brand cars.
Takes a one-time membership fee, but you’ll find just about anything on mhhauto.
KingSnorky ( @KingSnorky@lemmy.ml ) 25•1 year agoWe are getting closer to Mitch Hedberg’s vision of each car getting only 3 honks per month
ritchie ( @ritchie@lemmy.one ) 12•1 year agoIndia will have a real problem in a couple of decades… Or they will make their own models with unlimited lifetime honks.
sounddrill ( @sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ) 4•1 year agoLmao
Fietsbel ( @fietsbel@feddit.nl ) 22•1 year agoway above my paycheck, the paywall it is, the car also, but who cares… time to stop buying cars, and use the public transport and bikes… better for the environment anyway.
Contend6248 ( @Contend6248@feddit.de ) 6•1 year agoIt is the right decision for some mass transportation, but you can’t make cars obsolete with public transportation. Especially outside major cities.
Bene7rddso ( @Bene7rddso@feddit.de ) 4•1 year agoToo bad that Mercedes makes buses too
nayminlwin ( @nayminlwin@lemmy.ml ) 19•1 year agoIOTs are pushing us towards subscription hell-scape. We must demand dumb, non-connected machines and devices.
xthexder ( @xthexder@l.sw0.com ) 2•1 year agoI’m a hobbyist mechanic and I absolutely love how simple older vehicles are. There’s one wire for each thing. The door doesn’t need it’s own computer module like modern vehicles…
In my newest vehicle (a Ford truck), I pulled the fuse for the cellular modem, since I don’t need the manufacturer tracking my every move. Checking my tire pressure or fuel level from my phone is not a feature I care about. Remote start still works fine with the key fob.
There’s getting to be fewer and fewer new vehicles I would even consider buying because of all this interconnected nonsense.
Joe Cool ( @joe_cool@lemmy.ml ) 18•1 year agoConsidering “faster engine” means different tune on the exact same engine nowadays: not much has changed.
Fuck morons who pay this so the corps will continue to do this. They wouldn’t even consider it if people with more money than sense didn’t pay for it. Everything is enshittified until we live in Idiocracy. torpak ( @torpak@discuss.tchncs.de ) 17•1 year agoI have never owned or operated a car and this doesn’t really make me want to.
0x4E4F ( @0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 17•1 year agoWelcome to the world of digital subscriptions boys. It used to be a PC only thing… not any more.
somnuz ( @somnuz@lemm.ee ) 7•1 year agoWell… Plenty of cars are actually becoming a rideable PC where “ride” is just an option too. This is one of this things where I can’t decide, is it more sad, scary or stupid.
0x4E4F ( @0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 8•1 year agoIt’s moneeeyy. That’s all there is to it, money. They finally have an easy way to control what you can or can’t do with the things that (at least on paper) you own.
I just knew this was gonna happen… I warned about these things ever since music/movie subscriptions became a thing. You don’t own a copy of what you (allegidly) bought, thus, it’s not yours.
Now, you do own the thing… at least on paper, but you can’t do much with it unless you pay extra cash to the one who sold it to you, so it can… you know, do the things it’s supposed to do. It’s basically extortion, no matter how you slice it. It’s malware, period.
0x4E4F ( @0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml ) 2•1 year agoIf it’s easy enough to actually steal, everyone does it. It’s human nature, we’re greedy by nature.
grue ( @grue@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year agoThis is one of this things where I can’t decide, is it more sad, scary or stupid.
It’s criminal. Locking up capabilities of hardware you already bought and trying to extract rents for them is literally no different than a mafia protection racket. These car company execs deserve to go go prison for racketeering.
gronjo45 ( @gronjo45@lemm.ee ) 14•1 year agoTo what extent could companies wreck my freedom in cars even more? I have heard of heated seats being pay walled, despite the technology to heat the seat being installed in the factory… Computer controlled locking systems where if my key fob breaks I can’t get into my car, or worse, the electronic control system fails and I’m up shit creek without a paddle.
As to education, how can I even learn to repair something like that? My ignorance makes me think soldering may be useful, but how can an individual have greater control on the freedom to repair and own their automobile. The generality of my question lays in my ignorance to the inner workings of most cars.
Rodeo ( @Rodeo@lemmy.ca ) 5•1 year agoYou have to buy special $3000 computer handhelds that plug into the car and let you interface with it completely. Often you can only buy those with a business account direct from the manufacturer.
You cand do a little bit with OBD II using a $10 Bluetooth dongle and free app. But that’s basically limited to reading and clearing codes.
diskmaster23 ( @diskmaster23@lemmy.one ) 1•1 year agoWhat’s with Toyota’s TechStream? What is all that about?
gronjo45 ( @gronjo45@lemm.ee ) 1•9 months agoI got an OBD-II device for reading and clearing codes and at least I can snatch them from my vehicle. I haven’t heard of the dongle before, does it connect to the infotainment system and then allow you access to the underlying file system? I don’t want to brick anything doing that lol
wheresmypillow ( @wheresmypillow@lemmy.one ) 12•1 year agoJust don’t upgrade your firmware so you can jailbreak it later.
Thorny_Thicket ( @Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz ) 16•1 year agoOr just don’t buy a car that needs to connect to the internet. This is beyond stupid
Nalivai ( @Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de ) 13•1 year agoWhich is all of them. All of them need to be connected, it’s how they operate now. Most of them have decency to not do shit like that, but that might change at any point
StringTheory ( @StringTheory@beehaw.org ) 9•1 year agoTime to pull up my big boy undies and start riding my bike. That sucker ain’t controlled by anyone but me. <middle finger to the car companies, wobbles down the road on a two-wheeler>
Thorny_Thicket ( @Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz ) 5•1 year agoI doubt even all new cars require internet connection and there’s a shit ton of older models that don’t either. Definitely not “all of them”
grue ( @grue@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 year agoI still own only cars from the '90s and 2000s because of this issue (along with stuff like telemetry spying on you, etc.). However, even if just driving old cars forever works for me, it’s hardly a solution for society in general simply because there aren’t enough old cars for everybody to have one, let alone all the other problems with it.
These companies are trying to destroy our property rights in order to engage in unethical and abusive rentiership. The correct solution is legislative, not just to ignore them and hope they’ll stop!
Nalivai ( @Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de ) 3•1 year agoYeah, maybe not 100% of them, you are technically correct. For example, some Chinese companies are selling very cheep cars that are basically a reskin of the older cars from 1960th.
deadsenator ( @deadsenator@lemmy.ca ) 1•1 year ago1960th.
That made me chuckle.
Rentlar ( @Rentlar@beehaw.org ) 8•1 year agoI gotta put a Faraday cage around my next car if it’s going to try to connect to the internet.
narnach ( @narnach@feddit.nl ) 6•1 year agoWe’re getting closer to “you wouldn’t download a car” being outdated, if more cars start pushing most of their functionality from behind a paywall.
It’s not something I’m happy to see.
Altima NEO ( @altima_neo@lemmy.zip ) 4•1 year agoThose new Mercs look fucking hideous too
SternburgExport ( @SternburgExport@feddit.de ) 5•1 year agoBMW and Mercedes are in a competition to make the ugliest and most user unfriendly cars on the market.
McBinary ( @McBinary@kbin.social ) 5•1 year agoEverything looks like an early 2000’s Honda now. :(
DarkenLM ( @DarkenLM@kbin.social ) 4•1 year agoHonda:
Altima NEO ( @altima_neo@lemmy.zip ) 2•1 year agoNaw, worse, looks like late 00s Hyundai
craftyindividual ( @craftyindividual@lemm.ee ) 5•1 year agoI’m glad someone else noticed, modern cars make me vom!
ConfirmingMoose ( @ConfirmingMoose@reddthat.com ) 3•1 year agoI would be fine with a slot for my debit card and a huge BOOST BUTTON that cost like a dime to use for 10 s3conds.
lichtmetzger ( @lichtmetzger@feddit.de ) English4•1 year agoOnly if the navigation system starts to talk to you about family in Vin Diesel’s voice.
ConfirmingMoose ( @ConfirmingMoose@reddthat.com ) English5•1 year ago“Ride or die, remember?”
“Your Card Has Been Declined”
“Ride it is.”
KingSnorky ( @KingSnorky@lemmy.ml ) English5•1 year agoFamily
The engine comes as preinstalled DLC