I currently use Brave and am curious about the pros and cons of both since I see many people recommend Firefox.
- Arotrios ( @Arotrios@kbin.social ) 43•1 year ago
Brave is not your friend - if they’re willing to violate copyright law by secretly scraping websites and then selling the content in their AI, I’m sure they’re willing to sell your data if the price is high enough (if they aren’t already).
Firefox, on the other hand, has been the most trusted browser since dial-up, and is run by a non-profit. It’s an easy choice for me.
- digger ( @digger@latte.isnot.coffee ) 12•1 year ago
Firefox is a little more complicated than that. Yes, the Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit, however it’s subsidiary the Mozilla Corporation is not. It’s better than Google but like all things, it’s worth asking where the money comes from.
- Arotrios ( @Arotrios@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
True. OP looked like s/he wanted a simple answer so I just went with the basics, especially as there’s not a noticeable difference in basic browsing performance between the two in their current form (although I think FF is slightly faster right now).
- Fazoo ( @Fazoo@lemmy.ml ) 26•1 year ago
Firefox.
Brave team has been caught doing sketchy and controversial things over time, and I personally can’t be bothered to support them.
- BrikoX ( @BrikoX@lemmy.zip ) 23•1 year ago
Brave is great out of the box experience with a lot of privacy toggles enabled by default. Firefox can be hardened a bit more, but it requires more of a user input. Both are great options, so it mostly comes down to which engine you prefer, Blink or Gecko.
Some people also choose to use Firefox for a simple reason if it not based on Chromium to avoid monopolization.
- Umbrias ( @Umbrias@beehaw.org ) 23•1 year ago
Nobody has mentioned librewolf, which is a fantastic out of the box privacy browser. It’s a Firefox fork.
- manwithabox ( @manwithabox@lemmy.ml ) 4•1 year ago
This is the way.:)
- KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ ( @Kushia@lemmy.ml ) 20•1 year ago
I like how Firefox doesn’t shove crypto shit down my throat nor want to monitorize my web browsing experience at all.
- Dillacorn ( @Dillacorn@lemmy.ml ) 13•1 year ago
Hardend Firefox in incognito or just Librewolf with uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, and Decentraleyes add-ons along with Mullvad + NextDNS is the best combination. If you can also have pi-hole it can also do a good job at blocking trackers…NextDNS seems to do the job for me though. I use Mull browser on android.
- sajran ( @sajran@lemmy.ml ) 13•1 year ago
I use Firefox, but only because I really don’t want to support Chromium’s monopoly. I do think that Chromium based browsers are better though.
- Vexz ( @Vexz@kbin.social ) 11•1 year ago
Oh boy. This is a topic where you pretty much can only lose no matter what you say because everyone has a different opinion. Here’s mine.
Imo both are good browsers but they both have their advantages and disadvantages. From my experience Firefox uses telemetry more than Brave when I look at the DNS logs. It needs more tuning to be (more) privacy respecting. Brave does a better job out of the box.
On the other hand there’s uBlock Origin. You might have heard of Manifest v3 which is going to kill uBO for all Chromium based browsers. Yes, Brave has its own adblocker but it’s not as good as uBO and I doubt it ever will be. Also uBO offers better protection in Firefox than in Chromium based browsers. Though I’m not sure how relevant this is now since the article is over two years old.
I do have to say that I think most people trust Firefox (or Mozilla) too much. Maybe Mozilla respects your privacy more than other browser developers but I still don’t think they are very trustworthy. The problem is that you don’t have much of a choice. Either you trust any browser developer or you go off of the internet or you develop your own browser.
So for now you’re fine with either browser but when there will be no support for Manifest v3 on Chromium based browsers anymore you should go with Firefox. Firefox is never a bad choice, even now.
- Kissaki ( @Kissaki@feddit.de ) English1•1 year ago
but I still don’t think they are very trustworthy
How so? Why is that?
- Vexz ( @Vexz@kbin.social ) 4•1 year ago
There are many reasons. One of the reasons is this sneaky one.
Then there’s more than enough telemetry Mozilla makes use of in Firefox you need to disable in about:config where most users don’t even look. Lookup the following options:
- browser.tabs.crashReporting.sendReport
- datareporting.policy.dataSubmissionEnabled
- datareporting.healthreport.uploadEnabled
- toolkit.coverage.endpoint.base
- toolkit.coverage.opt-out
- toolkit.telemetry.coverage.opt-out
Everytime you start Firefox it sends your location to Mozilla. Lookup these options:
- Region.current
- Region.home
- browser.region.update.enabled
- browser.region.network.url
These are just a few things Mozilla does and pretty much nobody talks about because they are considered trustworthy. But let’s be real here: Trust is good, control is better. That’s why I made some research about Mozilla and found out about the above things.
- EpicFailGuy ( @EpicFailGuy@kbin.social ) 8•1 year ago
- Vexz ( @Vexz@kbin.social ) 6•1 year ago
Haven’t seen anything about Brave on my tech news. May I ask what news you’re talking about? I’d love to know. Thanks in advance.
- notfromhere ( @notfromhere@lemmy.one ) 5•1 year ago
Your comment proves propaganda works.
- guttermonk ( @guttermonk@lemmy.ml ) 7•1 year ago
Firefox has one of my favorite privacy extensions that creates containers to group your tabs into, and I haven’t found an equivalent for chrome based browsers: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
But if you like crypto, I’d go with Brave. Firefox recently broke a bunch of browser wallet / hardware wallet integrations by ditching U2F on the latest release without giving any of the big wallet programmers a heads up.
- !ozoned@lemmy.world ( @ozoned@beehaw.org ) 6•1 year ago
Firefox is the only choice for me at this point.