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yrmyli ( yrmyli@sopuli.xyz )  to Memes@sopuli.xyz · 3年前

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Ultimate engineering

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yrmyli ( yrmyli@sopuli.xyz )  to Memes@sopuli.xyz · 3年前
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  • magnetosphere  ( HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org ) 
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    Some mistakes make you want the person responsible fired, but some mistakes are SO bad that you actually feel sorry for them instead. This falls into the second category.

    • JakenVeina ( JakenVeina@lemm.ee ) 
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      That’s because a flaw like this is the result of SYSTEMATIC failure, not any one person. Who reviewed these designs? Who was responsible for usability testing? Who reviewed those plans? Was usability testing even performed?

      • SokathHisEyesOpen ( Anticorp@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Was usability testing even performed?

        If it was, it wasn’t tested with every cable type or they would have discovered this issue.

    • waspentalive ( waspentalive@kbin.social ) 
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      Some places don’t fire unless the issue is repeated, client-facing, or willfully dangerous (like assaulting co-workers). The theory is: This is the first time this has happened - we learned from it, the engineer specifically probably learned from it. This won’t happen again.

  • Ubermeisters ( Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Is that the engineers fault? Or is that the people who are supposed to check for usability after the engineer is done designing the functional aspects? Because it’s not usually an engineer’s job to do this…

    Basic product testing is the foundation of manufacturing, an error like this doesn’t get all the way through production and it still be just the engineers fault.

    • Rivalarrival ( Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ) 
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      They probably reused a PCB from another model that used a paperclip hole reset. They duplicated the design, sent it for testing, and came back with “everything is great, but make the reset a push button before you ship it.” Engineering probably said “ok. But it will need to go back for usability testing” and sales said “fuck that, send it”

      • criticon ( criticon@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Or another possibility, after proto and lots of testing: “we need to move test button a couple of cm to the right, away from the corner. No further tests needed”

      • Ubermeisters ( Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip ) 
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        That seems highly plausible to me

    • stealth_cookies ( stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Yes it is the engineers fault, but even then there should have been multiple people that should have caught such an issue along the way.

    • crimroy ( crimroy@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Probably both, but you’re right, there’s definitely a qa problem here

    • Llewellyn ( Llewellyn@lemm.ee ) 
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      It’s very strange engineer, if he doesn’t aware of RJ45 connector form-factors.

      • Ubermeisters ( Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Hey I’m not absolving the engineer for not doing basic interference checks but I’m saying it’s also somebody else’s job I’m sure, Cisco’s not a small company.

        • Llewellyn ( Llewellyn@lemm.ee ) 
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          What’s the point of mentioning that it’s someone else job too?

          • Ubermeisters ( Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip ) 
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            What’s the point of putting it all on the engineer?

            • Llewellyn ( Llewellyn@lemm.ee ) 
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              Who’s putting it all on the engineer?

              • napalminjello ( napalminjello@kbin.social ) 
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                It literally says “at least you’re not the Cisco design engineer…”

                • Llewellyn ( Llewellyn@lemm.ee ) 
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                  And? It showcases engineer fault, but how do it shift all blame to him?

  • Nkiru Anaya ( nkiruanaya@lemm.ee ) 
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    /r/crappydesign

    Oh wait, this isn’t the Reddit anymore.

    • !crappydesign@sh.itjust.works
    • !assholedesign@lemmy.ml
    • !assholedesign@lemmy.world
    • !crappydesign@zerobytes.monster

    Did I do that right?

    • AgnosticMammal ( AgnosticMammal@pawb.social ) 
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      Exclamation mark denotes the community, so:

      !crappydesign@sh.itjust.works

      !assholedesign@lemmy.ml

      !assholedesign@lemmy.world

      !crappydesign@zerobytes.monster

      The @ is the username indicator, so you’ve pinged people whose usernames are those for the instance.

      • Phazei ( Phazei@lemmy.ml ) 
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        This is one of those double edged sword things with Lemmy, since there’s so many places a community can be, they all end up being a little smaller. There’s got to be a better solution for that. Maybe when creating a community there should be a way to automatically search a large portion of committed all at once and display it to the user.

  • gatelike ( gatelike@feddit.de ) 
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    did they change careers after that? I would want to work on a farm and touch grass every day with my new friends, the animals.

    • NumbersCanBeFun ( NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social ) 
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      • Semi-Hemi-Demigod ( Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ) 
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        From this design flaw we can determine that Cisco doesn’t use Ethernet cables with protective boots

      • Llewellyn ( Llewellyn@lemm.ee ) 
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        Poor product testing doesn’t mean engineer hadn’t make a stupid and serious mistake.

      • waspentalive ( waspentalive@kbin.social ) 
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        They would have had to pick an RJ45 with that kind of boot (there are other kinds) in that particular port during testing. Or, perhaps think more and say “hmm I wonder if that button is in a bad place”

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  • astral_avocado ( astral_avocado@lemm.ee ) 
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    • LargestDong ( LargestDong@lemm.ee ) 
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      You must not work in enterprise IT. Every lower level network engineer says this until they gain more skills and experience with them. Then they realize the full extent of features Cisco and Juniper support that others don’t

      • astral_avocado ( astral_avocado@lemm.ee ) 
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  • EpicFailGuy ( EpicFailGuy@kbin.social ) 
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    @yrmyli

    It’s true https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/20/cisco_switch_cabling_error/

  • jasondj ( jasondj@ttrpg.network ) 
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    Was there a recall? I remember them sending out an advisory of the default behavior (and how to disable it), then changing the default behavior in software.

  • dap ( dap@lemmy.onlylans.io ) 
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    I actually, legitimately, laughed out loud at this one 🤣

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