• hare_ware ( hare_ware@pawb.social ) 
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      I have ~800 tabs open in Firefox, no real issues unless I flip through all of them or Tab Groups shuffles them all around. My desktop until recently was over a decade old and the new one is barely any faster.

        • … I don’t know if I can even think of a reason I would have thirty tabs open at any given ven time. I’ve never experienced any issues with Firefox, speaking purely from my own personal experience it performs vastly better than Chrome did when I made the switch a couple of years back. To be clear, I can’t conceive of a reason in 2023 where I would feel compelled to open Chrome, or any chromium browser outside of manufactured limitations imposed by a third party. If someone more knowledgeable on the subject has an objection to the above claims I would be happy to hear them; but at this point in time I can’t think of a good reason to use Chrome.

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      People really got to learn how to use Bookmark All Tabs... properly.

      If you’re in the middle of something and you got to switch to something else, organize all the tabs to separate windows, and use Bookmark All Tabs... to Saved Sessions folder or whatever you want to name it. This will allow each window to be saved individually. Save it with a date and at topic name, like “20230625 Bread maker” then close the window.

      I have a fear of crashing Firefox, restore failing, and losing all my tabs. This fixes most of that.

      Using the Bookmark All Tabs... method has help me organize my tabs, makes syncing with devices easier, and has allowed me to keep browsing sessions completely off my mind until I need them again.

    • For years Firefox on Windows had this weird random bug for me where audio just would not work at random times. I tried every fix imaginable. I spent hours crawling the internet trying to find a solution. Couldn’t fix it. I’ve used it on Linux but not on Windows for a few years now; I’m going to be doing a fresh install of Windows on my computer soon, so we’ll see if the bug finally disappears then.

    • itchychips ( itchychips@lemmy.ml ) 
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      I’ve had 5k+ tabs open at some points, because I just don’t close any of them, and I often middle click as I want to navigate back to the page I was at. Additionally, a lot of sites break the back button, like collapsing comments re-expanding, or it loads slowly and I wanted to look at it quick. Organization is pretty nice with Tree-Style Tab for Firefox.

      Every few months I purge all of my tabs, but for the most part, I just don’t care when I have 32 GB of RAM.

  • CIWS-30 ( CIWS-30@kbin.social ) 
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    This is why I use Firefox. I honestly don’t think that a browser engine monopoly is good for the world. Single point of failure for everyone with no alternatives is very bad if something nasty happens.

    I think the creators of WINE said something similar about one of their reasons for creating WINE. Wish more browsers would use Gecko.

    • _I_ ( _I_@kbin.social ) 
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      I actually use Edge as a daily, but I also use Firefox because I want to support them. Unfortunately, Edge and Chrome are superior to Firefox in performance. Edge especially is really really great at resource management, and it doesn’t matter if I have 1 or 700 tabs and windows open. It’ll manage it without any issues. Firefox however, won’t. Sure, it’s rich in features and it’s very very flexible, but it’s not as stable or fast as the former.

      Still love Firefox, though!

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        Well if you use Firefox Nightly with ad-blockers and the latest version of Windows Defender the performance will be comparable to edge and chrome, the only thing is that Firefox uses the RAM that you are not using and that means if you have something open it will run slower.

        • cpu and memory on my firefox and edge are about equivalent but I have some browser add ons for managing lots of tabs. I have way more on firefox because its my main browser but I have a fair amount on edge which I use like scratchpad.

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    I still remember version 2 of Firefox. It was an awesome feeling to install. Even today, just using Firefox still feels like I’m doing to right thing.

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    Unpopular opinion, brace yourselves.

    As a web developer, I would love to root for Firefox but they’ve made some really odd decisions regarding the implementation of web standards (which are published on the Mozilla MDN site, oddly enough), async/defer script loading order for example. Firefox is also often multiple years late with implementing new tech, being surpassed by Chromium and even Safari most of the time.

    While I love the non-profit style of Mozilla and think competition in the browser space is a good thing. The reality is just that their browser lags behind the other two. Firefox is a large part of the reason polyfills are still used in this world of evergreen browsers, and requires multi-browser testing/tweaking even though I exclusively follow the standards written on the MDN website…

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        exactly, and that’s what matters more than anything else. modern websites are insanely bloated anyway; i care more about blocking the 50MB of ads, trackers, third-party cookies and other garbage every site shoves down your throat, than shiny new stuff that arguably is often part of that overengineered bloat.

        look at this. it’s fucking beautiful. as far as i’m concerned, websites like these put the modern web and web developers to shame.

          • retro nintendo consoles really are neat things. i wasn’t at the right time (or even in the right country) to physically own a GBA or DS, but through emulators and piracy the DS was my “childhood console” nonetheless.

            i’ve tried many times to get into programming/romhacking for these consoles, but i just don’t have the skills, or the consistent motivation required to hone them. hoping that linking that site (which actually has a great tutorial for ARM assembly in general) might randomly get some interested people into GBA programming ;)

            p.s. what color/edition was your sp?

    • tvbusy ( tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      I see it the other way around. I have a feeling that FireFox follows the specs while Chromium kind of has its own plan and directly introduce new behavior without much care for standards.

      Since Chromium based browsers have the majority of the market share, you have the feeling that FireFox is awkward/lag behind. Now look back at Opera when they still have their own engine and you will see that while they try to introduce new behaviors just like Chromium, their limited market share means that people don’t feel the need to make use of these “innovations”.

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    I don’t know why, but even on my machine which gets 40-60 FPS in FFXIV while simultaneously encoding a movie, Firefox was always slower than chromium browsers.

    I truly don’t understand it.

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      It’s web builders deliberately building their sites and webapps for chromium based browsers only, because it has over 80% market share. They only test on firefox rudimentally. The experience is subpar and people use chromium instead because of it, cementing chromium as the most used browser. Some site builders do this because they don’t have the time to extensively test a browser with low market share, others, like Google, do it deliberately.

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      Depends on what sites you are using, google sites are slower for me, others are faster.

      Also looks like chrome is better at looking faster somehow, probably starts to render page sooner.

      And of course: wgich extensions do you have in firefox and how old is your profile. Try it out with new, clean profile and than you will feel it.

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        And of course: wgich extensions do you have in firefox and how old is your profile. Try it out with new, clean profile and than you will feel it.

        I mean this is fair, but eventually the profile ages and I may choose to add more extensions, no? Why would a selling point be “we’re fast on a brand new install, but after a couple years and adding some extensions, we’re gonna slow down like fuck”?

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        Blink is somewhat faster than Gecko in most sites, but it use somewhat more resources, because render every tab independly. Because of this some Chromium hibernate tabs in background (Chrome itself don’t)