jabjoe ( @jabjoe@feddit.uk ) English14•10 months agoThe logic is deterrence.
I mean it’s stupid, but that’s what the supporters think.
The thing they are missing is that no one commits a crime thinking they will get caught. So ever increasing the deterrence doesn’t help.
Drugs is a public health issue, no really criminal. Prohibition doesn’t work with things done at scales like drugs and alcohol. You’re just feeding the criminal gangs.
hyper ( @hyper@lemmy.zip ) 9•10 months agorehabilitation instead of prison…
4am ( @4am@lemm.ee ) 6•10 months agoHow about if I’m not bothering anybody then don’t even arrest me?
hyper ( @hyper@lemmy.zip ) 1•10 months agoEdit:
How about if I’m not bothering anybody then don’t even arrest me?
I misunderstood that comment above. My bad.
What do you mean? People get arrested for possession of weed for example that they plan to consume by themselves, not bothering anybody. Then they get locked up. You rather lock them away, than try to rehabilitate them? This applies to so many cases. Of course there are cases where the verdict says prison but at least try to keep people out of prison. But wait the prison system is a corporation trying to make money.
RogueBanana ( @RogueBanana@lemmy.zip ) 1•10 months agoUh did you misread it? That’s exactly his point, people getting arrested when they weren’t even bothering anyone.
arefx ( @arefx@lemmy.ml ) 1•10 months agoI’m from the city this cop was from and if I remember correctly he was shot in the head and survived but obviously not the same. Maybe he died I don’t really remember.
I’m not a fan of the police but on a human level some awful stuff happened to this guy.
Edit: looked it up because I was curious he underwent brain surgery and survived.
Fuck the police as a whole tho
iHUNTcriminals ( @iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee ) 1•10 months agoI’m all for caging money making dealers that kill when they are threatened with prison. I’ve seen too many people get killed because some cunt that already has enough money is scared to get caught.
HorseWithNoName ( @HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee ) 2•10 months agoIf only those were the people that US cops actually arrested.
Schadrach ( @Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•10 months agoIt didn’t say what mechanism would be used for the drugs to ruin your life. Prison works just as well as turning tricks for smack as far as life ruining goes.
Queen HawlSera ( @HawlSera@lemm.ee ) English1•10 months agoIt’s the same logic as when Republicans claim Government doesn’t work…
It’s not ignorance or stupidity, it’s a mission statement… Republicans are trying to make Government not work and Cops are actively trying to fuck you over
azurefirefly ( @azurefirefly@lemmy.basedcount.com ) 0•10 months agoIt’s supposed to be rehabilitation, but also it’s to stop you from ruining other people’s lives
What other people have their lives ruined when I take a drug?
azurefirefly ( @azurefirefly@lemmy.basedcount.com ) 2•10 months agoThe family you ran over while you were drunk
neoney ( @neoney@lemmy.neoney.dev ) 0•10 months agoIf only it was like in Portugal…
FredericChopin_ ( @FredericChopin_@feddit.uk ) 0•10 months agoOr Switzerland
ParsnipWitch ( @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ) 0•10 months agoYou do know it’s not police who make these laws, right? It’s the politicians that get elected by the people who create these laws.
Greyscale ( @greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ) English1•10 months agoThey chose to make their career of enthusiastically enforcing these laws with extreme violence. They chose this. Fuck the police.
ParsnipWitch ( @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ) 0•10 months agoI feel like this attitude and generalized hatred towards every person working as police will make it worse because no one will want to do that job anymore. It has already happend in the USA. This activism against police in general swaps to other countries via internet culture and European countries as well struggle to get anyone work as police. This will make it necessary to lower standards and additionally, more police will be on edge since there aren’t enough people.
Greyscale ( @greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ) English1•10 months agono one will want to do that job anymore
Good.
I’ve never seen a crime deterred or solved by the cops. You know what prevents crime? Improved standards of living. Secure housing. Gainful employment. Future prospects.
ParsnipWitch ( @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ) 0•10 months agoYou believe that there would be no crime if just everybody had a home and a job? Are you for real?
Greyscale ( @greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ) English1•10 months agoCrimes of poverty, deprivation, desperation? Significantly less than currently.
But yes, there would still be plenty of white collar crime that we don’t currently tackle either, and in some cases encourage by policy.
If heavy handed policing worked, it would have worked by now.
bdonvr ( @bdonvr@thelemmy.club ) 0•10 months agoI feel like this attitude and generalized hatred towards every person working as police will make it worse because no one will want to do that job anymore.
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ParsnipWitch ( @ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ) 0•10 months agoHow can you possibly rationalize that less people working as and apply to be police will somehow make the situation better? The opposite is true.
Greyscale ( @greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ) English1•10 months agoLess authoritarian pigs, more support workers.
Less shot dogs, more rehabilitation centers.
Less ex-military APCs, more rehab beds.